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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2015, 04:35:05 PM »

I still reckon he'll be back - rumour has it he's signed for Surrey for the County season. Lets face it, even now, the 2nd division of the County Championship isn't going to be a challenge to KP. I genuinely hope he comes back and smashes 1000 runs by the end of May like the media keep banging on about, surely even the ECB muppets couldn't ignore that.
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2015, 04:37:39 PM »

It's Division 2 though. Thats just one of the reasons they can ignore him. Surely if he's serious, he needs to sign for a Div 1 County, whilst they won't admit it, Div 2 runs are useless. Otherwise James Vince would have been on a plane to Barbados, or even still Daryl Mitchell would have been as hyped as Adam Lyth.
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2015, 04:42:05 PM »

It's Division 2 though. Thats just one of the reasons they can ignore him. Surely if he's serious, he needs to sign for a Div 1 County, whilst they won't admit it, Div 2 runs are useless. Otherwise James Vince would have been on a plane to Barbados, or even still Daryl Mitchell would have been as hyped as Adam Lyth.
I don't think it matters, div 2 isn't going to make KP a worse player, he's not a young player coming through. Cook plays div 2 so it would smack of double standards if the ECB use that as stick to beat KP down.
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2015, 04:44:07 PM »

Tbh, i agree in that sense, but tbh, the ECB don't need a lot to beat KP down and that may well be something petty enough for them to cling onto
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2015, 04:48:40 PM »

It's Division 2 though. Thats just one of the reasons they can ignore him. Surely if he's serious, he needs to sign for a Div 1 County, whilst they won't admit it, Div 2 runs are useless. Otherwise James Vince would have been on a plane to Barbados, or even still Daryl Mitchell would have been as hyped as Adam Lyth.

wasn't most of ali's runs scored in div 2? What county did strauss play for? Cook? Finn? Morgan.. What comp were Ballance's FC runs scored in?

if he's scoring runs then he's in form so should be picked ahead of the guys currently playing who are avg'ing less than him, unable to influence a game like him.
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2015, 04:50:46 PM »

yep, i think it's odds on Whitaker will find something to blcok KP's path should he fullfill the ECB's requirements.
I think the Graves/Whitaker relationship is worth watching, Graves clearly doesn't mind cracking a few eggs and I suspect he (Graves) has had a conversation with Cook, judging by Cooks criticism of selection.
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2015, 05:03:43 PM »

wasn't most of ali's runs scored in div 2? What county did strauss play for? Cook? Finn? Morgan.. What comp were Ballance's FC runs scored in?

if he's scoring runs then he's in form so should be picked ahead of the guys currently playing who are avg'ing less than him, unable to influence a game like him.

It's something for the ECB to use against him if he's averiging say 50, rather than 100. So if he's doing well but not spectacularly.

Lets not forget quite how few runs he scored in the Blast last year. It's no forgone conclusion that he's going to score ten million runs. Chances are he's not the player he was. Point to Sangakarra all you want, but that man is a freak. Players lose their powers at varying stages. He's only doing this for an Ashes Swansong anyway, not the easiest attack to come out of retirement to, not to mention the Kiwi visit beforehand.

He's not the Messiah. He's not going to carry the team on his own, he's not going to take all the catches, he's not going to make our bowling attack any less impotent, he's not going to improve the worrying lack of quality bowling coming through, he's not going to solve the coaching issues, he's not going to make that much difference. It takes a team to win a Test Match. Not one, creaky knee-d, over the hill, mouthy Saffa.

All the people who want him back seem to think he's going to save England Cricket and return us to 2005.

He's not.
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2015, 05:11:06 PM »

It's something for the ECB to use against him if he's averiging say 50, rather than 100. So if he's doing well but not spectacularly.

Lets not forget quite how few runs he scored in the Blast last year. It's no forgone conclusion that he's going to score ten million runs. Chances are he's not the player he was. Point to Sangakarra all you want, but that man is a freak. Players lose their powers at varying stages. He's only doing this for an Ashes Swansong anyway, not the easiest attack to come out of retirement to, not to mention the Kiwi visit beforehand.

He's not the Messiah. He's not going to carry the team on his own, he's not going to take all the catches, he's not going to make our bowling attack any less impotent, he's not going to improve the worrying lack of quality bowling coming through, he's not going to solve the coaching issues, he's not going to make that much difference. It takes a team to win a Test Match. Not one, creaky knee-d, over the hill, mouthy Saffa.

All the people who want him back seem to think he's going to save England Cricket and return us to 2005.

He's not.

still stand more chance than with current load of wet blankets
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2015, 05:19:03 PM »

There's no point comparing his T20 performances to First Class - it's a totally different ball game after all.

All I fear is a 5-0 whitewash and a total waste of £500+ in Ashes tickets, KP would at least provide some entertainment and potentially save a game or two!!
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2015, 05:19:52 PM »

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All the people who want him back seem to think he's going to save England Cricket and return us to 2005.


2012 would do.
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2015, 05:21:47 PM »

I think most people want the best XI selected and if KP scores runs then he is the best in the country. He won't fix England by himself but it's a step in the right direction.
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2015, 05:33:22 PM »

There's no point comparing his T20 performances to First Class - it's a totally different ball game after all.

All I fear is a 5-0 whitewash and a total waste of £500+ in Ashes tickets, KP would at least provide some entertainment and potentially save a game or two!!

buying a ECB over priced ashes ticket... oh dear, especially with the current ECB mob and the current test team.
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2015, 05:44:49 PM »

KP time to call it a day I think he is past it and if he not the last 18 months rightly or wrongly he has become a noose around English cricket.

The management and selectors all need sacking there all weak and it become a running joke yo wouldn't see this circus at club level everybody pulling in different direction.

Last Cook remark is baffling to be honest Moores is shocking too and looks like a clown following the circus.

KP has damaged ENGLISH cricket enough so have the boffins at the ECB.

Can we have our team back and install a tough single minded individual as both captain, and the same for a coach and bin the selectors.

This very thread shows we should be talking about our current side not bloody KP.
ECB hold your head in shame your spoiling cricket by being weak

KP YOU BEEN A LEGEND BUT NOT NO MORE MOVE ALONG
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2015, 05:56:07 PM »

absolutely second that procricket.
spot on.
we(England) are getting dragged thru the mire.i've lost count of the amount of 'clean starts' and 'fresh pages' following England but we genuinely do need a clear out

As for Cook....i'm with him 100 per cent. wrong man for the job? yes,because he's not a one day player.right to sack him with a month to go to a major tournament....surely not in anyone's book.

KP and those mis-managing our precious game should be got rid of. I don't ever want to see KP in an England shirt again
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2015, 06:04:16 PM »

Personally I think KP will score very heavily in Div 2 or if signed in Div 1. I think he is a very motivated individual with a huge amount of talent and he will score runs probably not just 100's but big hundreds including double hundreds. His motivation will be to prove to everyone he was right to now get sacked and that he is England's best batsmen.

The bloke can be a Knob. I doubt but he is a cricketer employed to score runs and win games and he has done that his whole career, let's not forget he is our highest run scorer I believe in history for England, the one player other teams fear and forget his age. Teams no doubt fear Sangkara, feared Brett Lee, Shane Warne, Glen. McGrath and feared them still in the later parts of there careers and KP once in form will still be feared.

If he is at the time of selection one of our best players England have a duty to the supporters that fund the ECB to pick him end of really.
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