Topic: Who makes Slazenger bats? (Read 16298 times)

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #30 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:36:06 AM »

Quote from: Uzi Sports on March 04, 2014, 09:35:31 PM

Yes true but not this year

Interesting.

ajmw89 · « **Reply #31 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:39:23 AM »

As far as I am concerned, and certainly from a libel point of view too, Slazenger bats are made by slazenger. If you speak to a slazenger executive and they tell you who makes them, that information was likely given in confidence, so should stay in confidence.

Take Tendulkar as an example, many people claimed to make bats for him, but as far as the general public (not us kit badgers) are concerned, his bats were stickered up as Adidas. Doesn't matter if they weren't made by adidas, all the punter sees is ST using an Adidas stickered bat.

Cedrictoad · « **Reply #32 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:39:46 AM »

Quote from: tim2000s on March 05, 2014, 10:24:12 AM

That's incredibly prejudicial and suggests that you believe that the volumes of handmade bats coming out of India and Pakistan are not made by skilled batmakers.

If you were buying a bat from SG or Newbery, you'd find that the master batmaker doesn't make all the bats, and dare I say it, just because is a brand is a small one man shop, that doesn't mean the bats will all be rockets, and the percentage that is good may also not be that high, simply that no-one wants to mention it...

As pointed out, I never said anything about countries (as the origin of the factory is totally irrelevant to me - only the skill of the batmaker). I would appreciate if you did not imply that I would care about that kind of thing.

For the record I also don't care about the sex or age of the batmaker either...

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #33 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:42:08 AM »

Quote from: Cedrictoad on March 05, 2014, 11:39:46 AM

As pointed out, I never said anything about countries (as the origin of the factory is totally irrelevant to me - only the skill of the batmaker). I would appreciate if you did not imply that I would care about that kind of thing.

But why import something that we can do perfectly well in this country?

Cedrictoad · « **Reply #34 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:47:52 AM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on March 05, 2014, 11:42:08 AM

But why import something that we can do perfectly well in this country?

Why do we import food when we could grow it here? I suspect the reason is financial!

Jimmyg · « **Reply #35 on:** March 05, 2014, 12:07:30 PM »

The country of origin may well be of interest to some buyers though, so shouldn't be top secret. If you're interested in the environmental impact of the products you use, should you be buying a bat that has shipped to India and back again? If it was discovered that a brand was making there bats in a particular factory where it was subsequently found that the workers had to work in horridous conditions etc shouldn't buyers be able to Know where goods are manufactured.
It seems a view on here by some that buyers have no right to ask where a bat is manufactured, it's frankly out of step with accepted norms in any industry. Companies should be able to prove the providence of their products, where it came from and who made it. It's no different to know where and what factory has made an Adidas T shirt, shouldn't buyers have the information to make informed choices?

Tom · « **Reply #36 on:** March 05, 2014, 12:31:42 PM »

Where are M&H bats made?

Stuey · « **Reply #37 on:** March 05, 2014, 12:46:14 PM »

As a consumer you have the right to ask and i'm not sure why you wouldn't, it's your hard earned money you're spending. I guess with a product that's bought for performance even more so. With a bat there are few variables to consider, the willow supplier, bat makers skill etc. However on the flip side the supplier (unless legally obliged) has the right not answer. So back to square one, you pays your money you takes your choice.

ajmw89 · « **Reply #38 on:** March 05, 2014, 01:08:22 PM »

Quote from: Tom on March 05, 2014, 12:31:42 PM

Where are M&H bats made?

To the punter on the street, in Taunton, by M&H

Steveo1000 · « **Reply #39 on:** March 05, 2014, 07:52:03 PM »

Quote from: ajmw89 on March 05, 2014, 01:08:22 PM

To the punter on the street, in Taunton, by M&H

Why the "punter on the street" comment?
This is taken directly from the M&H website

Millichamp and Hall specialise in manufacturng award winning bespoke cricket bats and hand-make every single one of our bats in our workshops at the Somerset County Cricket Ground in Taunton, Somerset.

I am a punter on the street and a decent chunk of my decision making was based on knowing exactly where my bat was coming from. You comment suggests you know something different, I for one would be interested to know more.

fasteddie · « **Reply #40 on:** March 05, 2014, 08:15:53 PM »

Interesting point re-M&H.

If you make a statement is part of your corporate communications, you best be sure you are 100% or your reputation will go west.

But, does it matter where a bat is made?
Do we ask Sainsbury's where they get their milk from, or where my car was made?

So long as it works, does it's job, and the firm isn't telling porkies, what does it matter.

The only time it rankles is when a brand is disingenuous. 'We have a workshop', when what they mean is 'this shed is where we put the stickers on'. 'We have our own plantation where we grow our own willow', when what they mean is 'we buy our bats from the same place most other people do'.

If you can't be honest, be somewhere else in my book.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #41 on:** March 05, 2014, 08:21:44 PM »

It's pretty simple, tell the truth

Only claim it's English willow if it's actually English willow
Only say hand made of its truly handmade.. If it's cnc'd then just say so.. No shame in it really.
If you buy bats in and sticker then just say 'our bats are sourced from x'.. Again, no shame in that if you are honest.
If you import then say so 'our bats are Indian made' etc

Honesty doesn't cost anything and people do appreciate honesty.

Tom · « **Reply #42 on:** March 05, 2014, 08:24:10 PM »

I asked the M&H question, because I'm sure if this question was asked of a sponsor - or a well liked brand then many would be much more against it being disclosed.

We always tried to be honest at Mongoose, openly stating Hunts County and SS as makers. However that was possible as we had a USP. Otherwise people will say "why not just buy a bat from x, at half the price?"

Kind of hard to justify paying �200 more for what is essentially the same bat. That's why the majority of brands/manufacturers don't like you talking about it.

DiscoStu · « **Reply #43 on:** March 05, 2014, 08:53:07 PM »

Quote from: ajmw89 on March 05, 2014, 11:39:23 AM

As far as I am concerned, and certainly from a libel point of view too, Slazenger bats are made by slazenger. If you speak to a slazenger executive and they tell you who makes them, that information was likely given in confidence, so should stay in confidence.

Take Tendulkar as an example, many people claimed to make bats for him, but as far as the general public (not us kit badgers) are concerned, his bats were stickered up as Adidas. Doesn't matter if they weren't made by adidas, all the punter sees is ST using an Adidas stickered bat.

I don't think it's libellous at all. They are the one's responsible for the finished product and have it branded as such but with so much work being outsourced (in virtually every industry) then it's fine to say this company is responsible for this part of the product. Tesco don't take offence when you suggest they don't make their own brand stuff. Nike have very few, if any, factories that make trainers. So asking Slazenger "What company(s) are responsible for the shaping of Slazenger bats?" is perfectly fair.

fasteddie · « **Reply #44 on:** March 05, 2014, 08:59:16 PM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on March 05, 2014, 08:21:44 PM

It's pretty simple, tell the truth

Only claim it's English willow if it's actually English willow
Only say hand made of its truly handmade.. If it's cnc'd then just say so.. No shame in it really.
If you buy bats in and sticker then just say 'our bats are sourced from x'.. Again, no shame in that if you are honest.
If you import then say so 'our bats are Indian made' etc

Honesty doesn't cost anything and people do appreciate honesty.

I agree, however, many of the brands who 'white label' rely on inertia and as such can be (are probably are) disingenuous to the buying public. 'We have our own plantation'. I might just email them and ask them to clarify that comment.

To read the chap from Mongoose open-up gains my respect. Good drills.
It's a shame many others rely on customer ignorance in inertia to get away with much.

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