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[tim2000s]

Since we are assured that anything below 15 degrees is not visible to the human eye...

Except that isn't the case, and wasn't where the 15 degrees statement came from!

[slcric]

1. Go to youtube, Sky Go etc.
2. Search "Sennanayake"
3. Watch video.
4. See proof of chucking. 

I consider your comments badly worded, factually inaccurate nationalistic piffle if you must know!

are those youtube videos proof from ICC after testing on his action was completed?how awfully ignorant and blatantly silly are you?
ignorant to the fact that i genuinely asked for proof and silly to the fact you tell me videos uploaded on youtube by some random is enough proof to prove Senanayeka is a chucker?i feel sorry for you.

Every single piece of video footage shows him chucking it. The question is not whether he is chucking it, rather whether he is chucking it within the rules (less than 15 degrees), or outside of the rules (more than 15 degrees).

no video shows him chucking it.to be called a chuck it has to exceed 15 degrees.he has not been proven to be bowling with an arm bent over 15 degrees.therefore no video shows him chucking.

Love it - an arson of deliveries. That'll really start a fire...But yes, we have never had a spinner acheive what Sennanayake has acheived - namely convince his national authorities to let him chuck the ball in international cricket.  HAd we developed such a genius talent we would surely have...erm...banned him or...erm...got him to bowl within the rules...

so Johan Botha,Saeed Ajmal,Mohommad Hafeez,Murali and now Senanayeka have all done well to convince their authorities to let them chuck in international cricket?and continued to bamboozle you sorry English chaps even after being tested?

you poor soul.

no wonder why for some reason everytime i see a comment from you,i unintentionally read out your username as "moronic"

"Something no English spinner has been ablet o achieve" - Doesn't matter what you bowl it's about taking the wickets, yes the wily subcontinental spinners give us headaches but I seem to remember a certain English spinner picking up 10 wickets in a test IN Sri Lanka circa 2011, I'm also sure of him ending up as the number 1 ranked ODI bowler around that time? I'm also fairly sure he broke 250 test wickets too (Which has only been achieved by two Sri Lankan bowlers to date?)...so yeah, good job we don't produce world class spinners.

what is the amount of Test cricket England play and what is the amount of Test cricket Sri Lanka play?so your argument about how many Sri Lankans have taken 250 test wickets is as sorry as the barmy army right now.as for Swann being ranked number 1 bowler in the world,good for him.didnt look world class material in the last ashes did he?everyone has their purple patch.Nuwan Kulasekara was ranked number 1 in the world before Swanna was.Kula is still playing.where is Swann now?i genuinely feel for you guys.

[tim2000s]

no video shows him chucking it.to be called a chuck it has to exceed 15 degrees.he has not been proven to be bowling with an arm bent over 15 degrees.therefore no video shows him chucking.

I beg to disagree, technically chuck=throw. If you are visibly straightening the arm, no matter to what degree, you are throwing. The difference is that in the last 10 years it has become okay to visibly throw the ball when bowling, up to a 15 degree limit, whereas in the preceding 350 years, it wasn't.

[AverageCricketer]

How about we wait until he is tested. Then you guys can start arguing about whether he chucks or not. This is feeling like a court case at the moment, with the prosecution against a lawyer. If he is proven to be chucking, he is chucking. If not, then he is free to bowl. His action is different, so there will always be people who say that he is chucking, and the test is out there to prove it. Stop taking things personally, and wait until the test (that he will hopefully bowl normally in)!

[Gingerbusiness]

are those youtube videos proof from ICC after testing on his action was completed?how awfully ignorant and blatantly silly are you?
ignorant to the fact that i genuinely asked for proof and silly to the fact you tell me videos uploaded on youtube by some random is enough proof to prove Senanayeka is a chucker?i feel sorry for you.


no video shows him chucking it.to be called a chuck it has to exceed 15 degrees.he has not been proven to be bowling with an arm bent over 15 degrees.therefore no video shows him chucking.


so Johan Botha,Saeed Ajmal,Mohommad Hafeez,Murali and now Senanayeka have all done well to convince their authorities to let them chuck in international cricket?and continued to bamboozle you sorry English chaps even after being tested?

you poor soul.

no wonder why for some reason everytime i see a comment from you,i unintentionally read out your username as "moronic"

what is the amount of Test cricket England play and what is the amount of Test cricket Sri Lanka play?so your argument about how many Sri Lankans have taken 250 test wickets is as sorry as the barmy army right now.as for Swann being ranked number 1 bowler in the world,good for him.didnt look world class material in the last ashes did he?everyone has their purple patch.Nuwan Kulasekara was ranked number 1 in the world before Swanna was.Kula is still playing.where is Swann now?i genuinely feel for you guys.

I am struggling to understand your incredibly ignorant and condescending conversation. Correct me if I am wrong but this only goes further to nailing down your xenophobic views on international cricket and, by your insults, people who are not from 'your' country.

However, please continue as I am sure it is giving everyone a good laugh at how pathetically childish someone can be when a genuine discussion topic is posed.

Maybe next time you feel sorry for someone, look at all those good Sri Lankan spinners who are bypassed by someone who, for the majority of his bowling action (the rest to be proved), bends his arm more than the average darts player. It must be incredibly frustrating for them to grow up bowling properly for someone just to come in and do what he does.

[AverageCricketer]

I beg to disagree, technically chuck=throw. If you are visibly straightening the arm, no matter to what degree, you are throwing. The difference is that in the last 10 years it has become okay to visibly throw the ball when bowling, up to a 15 degree limit, whereas in the preceding 350 years, it wasn't.

I agree with you, with chucking the ball meaning that his arm may be over the 15 degree limit

[FattusCattus]

I like Herath - he's a nice spinner.

[Blazer]

Except that isn't the case, and wasn't where the 15 degrees statement came from!

I was under the impression that a lot of players were bending to 15 degrees and then became a cut off point along with the bio mechanical input that it's nearly impossible to bowl without some flexion.

[Gingerbusiness]

I like Herath - he's a nice spinner.

Agreed matey!

[Blazer]

On a side note , Did anyone see Joe Root's trigger gone wrong with him being stuck halfway whilst the ball being bowled ?.

[MD2812]

Didn't realise this until I just read it but I think this is incredibly poor.

Senanyke was the only SL player or coach who didn't come down and shake hands with England players and coaches after the game. Once England had gone back to the dressing room he came down and celebrated with is team.

I think this is really poor, you've just beaten a team in a series, you go shake their hand.

Unless you've been rushed from the ground to hospital there are no excuses.

[slcric]

I am struggling to understand your incredibly ignorant and condescending conversation. Correct me if I am wrong but this only goes further to nailing down your xenophobic views on international cricket and, by your insults, people who are not from 'your' country.

However, please continue as I am sure it is giving everyone a good laugh at how pathetically childish someone can be when a genuine discussion topic is posed.

Maybe next time you feel sorry for someone, look at all those good Sri Lankan spinners who are bypassed by someone who, for the majority of his bowling action (the rest to be proved), bends his arm more than the average darts player. It must be incredibly frustrating for them to grow up bowling properly for someone just to come in and do what he does.

calling me ignorant are you?how ignorant are you to the fact that the bowlers you accuse of chucking are perfectly permitted by the ICC to bowl in international matches?


people who are not from "my" country you say?well.no.basically any bowler who your batsman cant face has unfortunately had to go through this horror.first it was Murali,then Ajmal and now poor Senanayeka.some people on this forum went as far as questioning Lasith Maling's bowling action.why?because he won us games that England could have won.


it must be incredibly frustrating for your batsman to face local spinners who are at best net bowlers (bar a limited few) compared to subcontinental standards and then face real quality spinners,right?instead to accusing ICC approved bowlers,it might be a wise move to steal another few batting coaches from countries who are performing well at the moment and maybe negotiating an under-the-table deal with a subcontinental mystery spinner to come down to the UK and bowl day in day out to your batsman in the nets.might prove to be a good investment cos accusing opposition players is sure as hell not helping the sorry English team.

[roco]

I like Herath - he's a nice spinner.

voice of calm as always brucie

reading this I thought jeet was back (for you older members)

[Nickauger]

voice of calm as always brucie

reading this I thought jeet was back (for you older members)

Who needs a voice of calm, this is much more fun I love it when stuff like this happens!

[Buzz]

please can we stop the petty name calling.

I think it is reasonable any action is questioned - and it is certainly not a racial thing and should not be taken that way.

For those who don't remember - the 15degree limit was introduced as that was the limit that the naked eye could not see flex in the elbow during the delivery.