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« Reply #60 on: May 21, 2021, 01:39:36 PM »
Surely they could have found a clip of Atherton playing an inswinger if they wanted to compare the techniques :D. Maybe Atherton playing against Waqar/Donald!
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« Reply #61 on: May 21, 2021, 02:08:41 PM »
Didn't think much of that to be honest! 20min of shredding Robson for falling over and playing across one, and somehow it gets blamed on where he's standing? If he stood on leg and fell over straight ones like that he'd just get bowled instead (see Bairstow, J). A proper conversation about why batting on off is getting more popular would have been a lot more interesting. Key would have added a lot here I think.
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« Reply #62 on: May 21, 2021, 03:09:40 PM »
It literally felt like an 'old guard' vs 'new guard' debate :D. Ideally it would have been nice to have someone who is pro 'new guard' in the discussion to get an opposing view.
It did seem unfair to target Robson. Isnt he among runs this season?
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« Reply #63 on: May 21, 2021, 06:55:56 PM »
Quote from: LEACHY48 on May 21, 2021, 01:07:29 PM
Buzz already knows my thoughts on this video.

But batting on off stump is not in itself a questionable technique.

Robsons problem is that his head falls over and so he misses straight balls.

Shane Watson did this and batted on leg stump but was out LBW More than any other dismissal.

Your guard is categorically not the reason you are getting LBW, your head almost definitely is.

Batting on off stump doesn’t change your head, and neither does batting on leg stump.

As for Butcher saying that this technique “is just wrong” I wonder if he is aware that the only 2 players to average over 60 in test cricket in the last decade currently adopt this approach.

Kane Williamson - who most regard as the most technically adept player on the circuit, bats outside off stump!

If your fundamentals aren’t in check, you will get out wherever you bat. All that video shows is that more county batsman nowadays don’t play straight because they fall over, and don’t have their fundamentals in check.

Absolutely spot on! Steve Smith is another one who rarely gets LBW despite batting on/outside off. They should compare him and Williamson to the rest and show WHY Robson etc are struggling to hit straight balls. The guard is irrelevant- if your head falls over or if you plant your front foot, then obviously a leg stump guard is better, but you’re just papering over a key flaw in technique.
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Re: Batting Master Class videos
« Reply #64 on: May 21, 2021, 09:28:29 PM »
Quote from: edge on May 21, 2021, 02:08:41 PM
Didn't think much of that to be honest! 20min of shredding Robson for falling over and playing across one, and somehow it gets blamed on where he's standing? If he stood on leg and fell over straight ones like that he'd just get bowled instead (see Bairstow, J). A proper conversation about why batting on off is getting more popular would have been a lot more interesting. Key would have added a lot here I think.

This

I’d take lbw over clean bowled Bairstow every single game

It’s not the technique or tactical position problem.. quite simply the batsmen aren’t very good .. unlike smith Etc

Bairstow stands leg side and gets cleaned up so hardly any better.
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Re: Batting Master Class videos
« Reply #65 on: December 28, 2022, 12:14:19 PM »
In prep for Winter nets, Glenn Maxwell T20 masterclass:

https://youtu.be/yhNYBe3ZWgY

Enjoy.
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Re: Batting Master Class videos
« Reply #66 on: December 28, 2022, 07:17:37 PM »
Quote from: thegowerwaft on December 28, 2022, 12:14:19 PM
In prep for Winter nets, Glenn Maxwell T20 masterclass:

https://youtu.be/yhNYBe3ZWgY

Enjoy.

And Alex Carey... It's a masterclass bonanza:

https://youtu.be/4LPpugCBdhg
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Re: Batting Master Class videos
« Reply #67 on: November 04, 2024, 05:10:27 PM »
This is amazing footage - Don Bradman batting. Look how his hands almost work independently of each other at times.
https://youtu.be/UcvglFW7OgQ?si=V-FlmzQadEh0MutY
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