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Re: Batting Master Class videos
« Reply #60 on: May 21, 2021, 01:39:36 PM »

Surely they could have found a clip of Atherton playing an inswinger if they wanted to compare the techniques :D. Maybe Atherton playing against Waqar/Donald!
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« Reply #61 on: May 21, 2021, 02:08:41 PM »

Didn't think much of that to be honest! 20min of shredding Robson for falling over and playing across one, and somehow it gets blamed on where he's standing? If he stood on leg and fell over straight ones like that he'd just get bowled instead (see Bairstow, J). A proper conversation about why batting on off is getting more popular would have been a lot more interesting. Key would have added a lot here I think.
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« Reply #62 on: May 21, 2021, 03:09:40 PM »

It literally felt like an 'old guard' vs 'new guard' debate :D. Ideally it would have been nice to have someone who is pro 'new guard' in the discussion to get an opposing view.
It did seem unfair to target Robson. Isnt he among runs this season?
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« Reply #63 on: May 21, 2021, 06:55:56 PM »

Buzz already knows my thoughts on this video.

But batting on off stump is not in itself a questionable technique.

Robsons problem is that his head falls over and so he misses straight balls.

Shane Watson did this and batted on leg stump but was out LBW More than any other dismissal.

Your guard is categorically not the reason you are getting LBW, your head almost definitely is.

Batting on off stump doesn’t change your head, and neither does batting on leg stump.

As for Butcher saying that this technique “is just wrong” I wonder if he is aware that the only 2 players to average over 60 in test cricket in the last decade currently adopt this approach.

Kane Williamson - who most regard as the most technically adept player on the circuit, bats outside off stump!

If your fundamentals aren’t in check, you will get out wherever you bat. All that video shows is that more county batsman nowadays don’t play straight because they fall over, and don’t have their fundamentals in check.

Absolutely spot on! Steve Smith is another one who rarely gets LBW despite batting on/outside off. They should compare him and Williamson to the rest and show WHY Robson etc are struggling to hit straight balls. The guard is irrelevant- if your head falls over or if you plant your front foot, then obviously a leg stump guard is better, but you’re just papering over a key flaw in technique.
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« Reply #64 on: May 21, 2021, 09:28:29 PM »

Didn't think much of that to be honest! 20min of shredding Robson for falling over and playing across one, and somehow it gets blamed on where he's standing? If he stood on leg and fell over straight ones like that he'd just get bowled instead (see Bairstow, J). A proper conversation about why batting on off is getting more popular would have been a lot more interesting. Key would have added a lot here I think.

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I’d take lbw over clean bowled Bairstow every single game

It’s not the technique or tactical position problem.. quite simply the batsmen aren’t very good .. unlike smith Etc

Bairstow stands leg side and gets cleaned up so hardly any better.
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Re: Batting Master Class videos
« Reply #65 on: December 28, 2022, 12:14:19 PM »

In prep for Winter nets, Glenn Maxwell T20 masterclass:

https://youtu.be/yhNYBe3ZWgY

Enjoy.
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Re: Batting Master Class videos
« Reply #66 on: December 28, 2022, 07:17:37 PM »

In prep for Winter nets, Glenn Maxwell T20 masterclass:

https://youtu.be/yhNYBe3ZWgY

Enjoy.

And Alex Carey... It's a masterclass bonanza:

https://youtu.be/4LPpugCBdhg
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Re: Batting Master Class videos
« Reply #67 on: November 04, 2024, 05:10:27 PM »

This is amazing footage - Don Bradman batting. Look how his hands almost work independently of each other at times.
https://youtu.be/UcvglFW7OgQ?si=V-FlmzQadEh0MutY
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Re: Batting Master Class videos
« Reply #68 on: April 17, 2025, 06:01:33 AM »

This is a nice video talking about how weight and shape of a bat will impact your technique
https://youtu.be/6XDikwX5n94?si=Tz2rMSAUAsWAVgte
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« Reply #69 on: April 17, 2025, 09:19:25 AM »

Great find, @Buzz

Really enjoyed that. I have written elsewhere- as I have got older, I have gone to a slightly lighter bat. Tried heavier ones but never really got that far with them. I wince remembering a really heavy bat I got at about 13 - totally my fault but made batting a nightmare.
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« Reply #70 on: April 17, 2025, 10:46:13 AM »

Yeah really loving these videos guys. Thankyou so much.
Loved the great Don video. I feel like I was born in the wrong era sometimes. How many times do I tell teammates
 ‘If you dont hit the ball in the air , you cant be caught’!
Also nice to know the older and heavier I get, its no surprise my bat has naturally had licence to get heavier too.
After pioneering that the best bat I ever had was 2,6 and more club adult bats needed to be that weight (for uncovered pitches). I never thought Id see the day Id be fussy that a bat is far too light, but here I am years later.
Amazing. Thanks alot beer!🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺😂
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Re: Batting Master Class videos
« Reply #71 on: April 17, 2025, 03:53:19 PM »

This is a nice video talking about how weight and shape of a bat will impact your technique
https://youtu.be/6XDikwX5n94?si=Tz2rMSAUAsWAVgte

"Trial and error".
https://youtu.be/6XDikwX5n94?t=215

If your outfield is like a billiards table where ball just rolls off like professional/international fields, you can use bats same weight as pros (Ben Stokes' 2 lb 9oz bat :D ). Not all grounds have fast outfields, a pitch might be quick and bouncy and outfield might be slow and sandy. In such cases, you do need a heavy bat. If a ground has slow outfield and long boundaries, you NEED a heavy bat.

My preference is that if you can, use a heavier bat. Yes, I know that is not the conventional wisdom but if you are physically able it, it pays big dividends.
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Re: Batting Master Class videos
« Reply #72 on: April 17, 2025, 04:24:13 PM »

Not quite sure I agree. I play on a low and slow pitch with huge square boundaries which flood for 2 months of the year, and my well-prepared and well looked-after 2.10 GM does me a lot better than when I used a 2.15 bat that was too big for my pool noodle arms. It helps my timing and technique, and a well-timed shot with a quality bat is a much better option for me than a bottom handed thwack with a tree trunk.
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Re: Batting Master Class videos
« Reply #73 on: April 17, 2025, 06:45:18 PM »

I imagine bowling speed has a lot to say.
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Re: Batting Master Class videos
« Reply #74 on: April 17, 2025, 07:34:01 PM »

Who knew a good old debate about head position and batting guard was what was needed to revive the forum?!
Great to see
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