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[ajmw89]

For all we know, the crumpling peak may aid the ball in getting through...

[Stuey]

For all we know, the crumpling peak may aid the ball in getting through...

Only way is a like for like test to replicate the incident, anyone got Broady's number?   

[skip1973]

Lots of supposing going on.

[tim2000s]

Lots of supposing going on.

Not much else you can do until someone replicates the incident across multiple helmets and proves one way or another how each helmet would cope.

[Vic Nicholas]

And therein lies the rub.  If the result of using the "world's safest helmet" was a broken nose,  what would the result have been with a "less safe helmet"?

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A broken nose.

The ECCB propaganda campaign is in full swing around here.

The Ayrtek FAILED in its primary role.

You cannot sugar coat that.

If the ball hit him in the eye rather than the nose, Broad would be in serious strife right now.

If Mitchell Johnson bowled it, Broad would be in a coma.

[Neon Cricket]

A broken nose.

The ECCB propaganda campaign is in full swing around here.

The Ayrtek FAILED in its primary role.

You cannot sugar coat that.

If the ball hit him in the eye rather than the nose, Broad would be in serious strife right now.

If Mitchell Johnson bowled it, Broad would be in a coma.

Another well thought out and informative post from yourself, thank you

[tim2000s]

A broken nose.

The ECCB propaganda campaign is in full swing around here.

The Ayrtek FAILED in its primary role.

You cannot sugar coat that.

If the ball hit him in the eye rather than the nose, Broad would be in serious strife right now.

If Mitchell Johnson bowled it, Broad would be in a coma.

If I remember correctly, one of the primary roles of the helmet is to stop the ball penetrating the gap between the peak and the grille at up to 67mph. Please can you confirm how you know that it failed in this role? Do you know something about the speed of the ball hitting the helmet that we don't?

Thanks.

[Buzz]

If Mitchell Johnson bowled it, Broad would be in a coma.

No if Mitchell Johnson had bowled it, we have established that Broad would have missed it due to standing at square leg.
Failing that it he would have missed it and it would have deflected off his lid for 6 byes.

Keep up Vic!!!!!

Anyone who thinks that another helmet would have performed better in these circumstances is in dreamland (my view - feel free to shoot me for it. Oh and I use a Masuri - because they look better )

[Vic Nicholas]

If I remember correctly, one of the primary roles of the helmet is to stop the ball penetrating the gap between the peak and the grille at up to 67mph. Please can you confirm how you know that it failed in this role? Do you know something about the speed of the ball hitting the helmet that we don't?

Thanks.

The ball was 86mph - out of the bowlers hand.

It loses speed after pitching...so reaches the batsman at around 72-76mph.

It was FINE edge...so could not have picked up any significant speed.

His bloody nose is splattered all across his face.

EPIC FAIL.

[Vic Nicholas]

Another well thought out and informative post from yourself, thank you

You're welcome.

[tim2000s]

The ball was 86mph - out of the bowlers hand.

It loses speed after pitching...so reaches the batsman at around 72-76mph.

It was FINE edge...so could not have picked up any significant speed.

His bloody nose is splattered all across his face.

EPIC FAIL.

Interesting. 72-76mph. Outside the limit of the tests that you have so far espoused as being useless, pointless and very much British Imperialism led.... Some 10% (on average) greater than what is required of a helmet according to the ICC?

And his nose is flattened like he's been punched on it is it? I was sure that was what I saw in the pictures, right, splattered flat and bloody all across his face?

That's right, epic fail... He couldn't even walk off the pitch. They had to call on the stretcher! If he'd only been wearing a Shrey, hey?

[ajmw89]

Interesting. 72-76mph. Outside the limit of the tests that you have so far espoused as being useless, pointless and very much British Imperialism led.... Some 10% (on average) greater than what is required of a helmet according to the ICC?

And his nose is flattened like he's been punched on it is it? I was sure that was what I saw in the pictures, right, splattered flat and bloody all across his face?

That's right, epic fail... He couldn't even walk off the pitch. They had to call on the stretcher! If he'd only been wearing a Shrey, hey?

If he had been wearing a shrey/last years' masuri/albion/any other lid, I reckon he'd have been in serious strife...

[cjicricket]

One thing I have noticed about these Adidas helmets is that the nuts don't screw on as securely as on other helmets.  Another feature of the new Masuri VS range is the fact that the grilles are already fitted and can't be screwed/unscrewed, which saves a lot of time and hassle, but presumably helps on the safety front too.  If it was indeed one of these nuts that flew off on impact that is possibly the most likely cause of the ball fitting through imo.  A grille that isn't secured properly is vulnerable to this, no matter what the gap between the peak and grille is...

I agree with Its Just cricket, we had had issues fitting the grills to Adidas helmets! my son has this model helmet and he has lost a nut on the side!

[Dan W]

Silly question - and I haven't been able to see all the original debate on the safety tests - but the test does examine a delivery thoughout the front of the grill (i.e. through the sides)?

[tim2000s]

I agree with Its Just cricket, we had had issues fitting the grills to Adidas helmets! my son has this model helmet and he has lost a nut on the side!

One of the things I noticed about the Ayrtek helmet in general is that you have to slightly flex the grille mount to get it on. After this, I've not had problems with loosening nuts.