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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2014, 10:50:28 AM »

It is not apparently okay, quite lame of you to say that. How do you know if a white person would have charged, did you try it? This can go off tangent and I will hate to see that. You just have to look in to recent history and you will know that people have got away with a lot serious racial abuse.
I know it is not okay, it was just disturbing to see a lack of any intervention from either stewards or police at repeated use of the language, and is another reflection of poor behaviour, similar to the Boos the other day.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2014, 12:32:27 PM »

One way to tackle it is to simply take a camera around the ground and record who is doing what. Just like football, identify the the troublemakers and deal with them. Not difficult to identify who they are as it's allocated seating . They could either throw them out or simply give them a summons later for racist abuse with a nice bit of video of their handywork. At that point the ECB ban them from all first class grounds.
Simple and will be effective, at the very least it will act as a deterrent.

I don't think the Captains or Moen have raised it as an issue yet. Should they?

Can the crowd be done for just booing? And if yes then should they [white and brown] be done for booing Jadeja and Anderson also.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2014, 12:36:43 PM »

Don't think you will ever stop them booing but it depends on what else is being said or shouted at the player. A bit of banter is one thing but if its leading to other things then that's a different matter. Certainly no harm in anybody who is persistently booing to be shown the door, Indian or English.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2014, 01:07:00 PM »

I was told by a cross person on Twitter that the booing is an issue of humour amongst IndoPak diaspora...

I replied that there can't be any assurance on how an individual may take it, whether it's intended as an in-joke or otherwise.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2014, 01:17:44 PM »

I was told by a cross person on Twitter that the booing is an issue of humour amongst IndoPak diaspora...

I am sure it was intended that way. There was a lot of booing, sledging between fans of both teams when I went to watch Ind vs Pak at Edgbaston.

The fact that Bopara, Patel have not openly made any comments or statements about it may suggest, they see it as banter as well.

You are absolutely correct in your reply to the twitter person by the way.

What baffles me is the ignorance, India was not playing Pakistan, Moen Ali is not Pakistani. Ind Vs Pak banter should be left for appropriate games.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2014, 06:40:56 PM »

I misread the title and thought he'd been tweeting naughty pictures!
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2014, 05:05:59 AM »

Was just speaking with another fellow cricketer and apparently it started when he went against ICC rules to wear free gaza wrist band in test match.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2014, 11:44:55 AM »

read moen ali's father's interview on sky sports just released and you can see what he thinks about what happened the other day, and why.
Ali was born here, is a Muslim, and plays for England.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2014, 12:15:59 PM »

read moen ali's father's interview on sky sports just released and you can see what he thinks about what happened the other day, and why.
Ali was born here, is a Muslim, and plays for England.


I couldn't agree with his Dad more.

for info...interview here http://www1.skysports.com/cricket/news/12040/9461730/moeen-alis-father-munir-hits-back-after-edgbaston-abuse

Must be said that Moen is not the first British Pakistani Muslim to play for England and I can't remember anyone else being booed or may be the news never got media coverage.

Good to see that he focussing on cricket, all the best to him.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2014, 06:46:05 PM »

Saj Mahmood got awful stick from the headingley crowd back in 2006, where a large portion of the crowd barracked him and called him a traitor among other things.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2014, 07:42:38 PM »

The PCA seem more upset about a few people bagging Alistair Cook's captaincy, then the perceived racial nature of this abuse:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/england/11085200/England-spinner-Moeen-Ali-should-welcome-booing-says-Professional-Cricketers-Association-chief-Angus-Porter.html
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2014, 08:17:59 PM »

The PCA seem more upset about a few people bagging Alistair Cook's captaincy, then the perceived racial nature of this abuse:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/england/11085200/England-spinner-Moeen-Ali-should-welcome-booing-says-Professional-Cricketers-Association-chief-Angus-Porter.html


Seems they are taking the "banter" approach which is just baffling. Respect to Moeen Ali though, could make a meal out of this and has kept his head down
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2014, 04:00:18 AM »

Being and an Indian supporter and having been to India games and hanging around these sorts of fans they intend them as jokes but they have no idea when the line is crossed and often take the "banter" wayyy to far.. A lot of the times even to their own players

I mean look at this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iSPN0TKRPc

The indians realy need to get smarter and learn where that line is..
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2014, 05:29:59 AM »

Being and an Indian supporter and having been to India games and hanging around these sorts of fans they intend them as jokes but they have no idea when the line is crossed and often take the "banter" wayyy to far.. A lot of the times even to their own players

I mean look at this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iSPN0TKRPc

The indians realy need to get smarter and learn where that line is..

This is extremely disturbing and shocking to see they way they were threatening and abusing lads on other side.

Pathetic.
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