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Moen Ali and Boos
« on: September 08, 2014, 08:59:49 AM »

Any one knows why he received some boos?

I can't recall any Jadeja-Anderson kind of incident involving him.

Hope it was nothing to do with race, religion, color etc.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2014, 09:02:15 AM »

Suspect his political stance may sadly have something to do with it?
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2014, 09:02:30 AM »

Unfortunately it is being reported as the latter.


http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2014/content/story/778919.html


Disgraceful.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2014, 09:04:14 AM »

Would I be right in saying he's of pakistani descent?  If so, there's your reason.  Similar to Bopara getting called a traitor the other year by british born indian fans during the champions trophy...

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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2014, 09:13:46 AM »

called a traitor the other year by british born indian fans during the champions trophy...

The irony in that is unbelievable!
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2014, 09:21:44 AM »

The irony in that is unbelievable!

one of the problems with this country really!
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2014, 09:27:00 AM »

From what was being said on twitter (always full of rubbish) it sounded like the born and bred British Indian supporters in the crowd decided that Ali was Pakistani not British. I kind of get the supporting India bit, but I'm disappointed when somebody roots for the oppo over the country of their birth, but booing a fellow British citizen is off.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2014, 09:27:00 AM »

ali was born here of pakistani decent. that's the reason for the booing

I was at the oval one dayer on the last tour with my mate who is an Indian supporter

the abuse samit patel and ravi bops received was digraceful. they should of been thrown out(and some were)

ravi and samit were being abused because they play for england,both were born here

the indian fans are an embarrasment to cricket
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2014, 09:29:09 AM »

ravi and samit were being abused because they play for england,both were born here

the indian fans are an embarrasment to cricket

I'd like to know how many of the Indian fans in the crowd over the summer have actually been born and raised British - I'm sure it's quite a high percentage.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2014, 09:43:59 AM »

Would I be right in saying he's of pakistani descent?  If so, there's your reason.  Similar to Bopara getting called a traitor the other year by british born indian fans during the champions trophy...

They're such hypocrites because if  their wasn't  any british born asians playing for England  they would be the first to complain.   
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2014, 10:26:49 AM »

Being Indian and a die hard India Supporter, I am absolutely disgusted by this. I still hope there was some jest in it and that the fans did not realise the scale of their banter. I wouldn’t go as far as calling Indian fans pathetic and hypocritical. They are a rather simple and emotional bunch who are yet to learn political correctness. I am sure people wouldn’t even remember their actions as they walked out. They have yet to learn that some banter can have lasting implications.

England won and Moen had the last laugh.

By all means boo Anderson and Jadeja but Moen has done nothing to deserve that. Hopefully this will only help him become a stronger person.

Bopara has spent time in IPL and was treated alright I believe.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2014, 10:27:51 AM »

I've experienced something similar amongst the crowd at the Oval. We were sat behind a large group of Indian supporters at an England v India ODI, and one of their  group kept standing up, at which point the people in the group behind him started shouting "Sit down you F...... P...". I'll leave you to fill in the blanks. If that had been a white English male, the police in the section would have been straight over and taking you outside on a charge of racist abuse, but because they were Indian, nothing was done as it's apparently okay...
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2014, 10:33:44 AM »

Would I be right in saying he's of pakistani descent?  If so, there's your reason.  Similar to Bopara getting called a traitor the other year by british born indian fans during the champions trophy...

You could be right but it has to be said that the likes of Akram, Raza have spent a lot of time in India and with Indian teams and have been treated with the utmost respect.

It was probably just banter gone a bit dark.

What would have been the appropriate action if any by the stewards?

Surely throwing people out would have made it worse and it was still nothing compared to football.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2014, 10:41:30 AM »

If that had been a white English male, the police in the section would have been straight over and taking you outside on a charge of racist abuse, but because they were Indian, nothing was done as it's apparently okay...

It is not apparently okay, quite lame of you to say that. How do you know if a white person would have charged, did you try it? This can go off tangent and I will hate to see that. You just have to look in to recent history and you will know that people have got away with a lot serious racial abuse.

I think Indian fans will have to take some responsibility here and take action [not physical] against their own for the perception to improve.

Moen's alliance should have nothing to do with his origin, just like KP, Khwaza [Aussie], Tahir [SA] etc. He is a good prospect for England along with Bopara and I wish them all the best.
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Re: Moen Ali and Boos
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2014, 10:46:52 AM »

One way to tackle it is to simply take a camera around the ground and record who is doing what. Just like football, identify the the troublemakers and deal with them. Not difficult to identify who they are as it's allocated seating . They could either throw them out or simply give them a summons later for racist abuse with a nice bit of video of their handywork. At that point the ECB ban them from all first class grounds.
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