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The future of Helmets and head protection...
« on: November 27, 2014, 06:14:38 PM »

In light of the tragic incident that has occurred with Phillip Hughes yet more questions will be asked about Helmets and Head protection in cricket. Without completely reinventing the helmet what more can be done? Will we see a helmet that fully covers the head like the helmets used in motor sports or an NFL style helmet?
Another question id like to ask is will this have an effect on your helmet use?  For those who don't wear one, will you?
For those who do wear a helmet will you upgrade to the new and more safe models to be as safe as possible?
I personally will most likely upgrade to new style Masuri, it's highly unlike that I will sustain an injury of this type but it is a shared opinion between me, my friends and family that safe is better then sorry.

I was truly shocked and saddened when i heard the news this morning, I lump in my throat to say the least.
RIP Phillip Hughes
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2014, 06:24:46 PM »

Problem I foresee is that people truly are unique and so are there head size.

So generally helmets are universal.  And as with all universal things. They don't fit one person Perfectly.


A helmet or bump cap could easily be made/invented to cover around the ears and down to the lower neck, offering full protection.
Unfortunately what will fit one head will not fit another, so they'd have to be individually molded and therefore very unique and very expensive......






The other way to protect said area, without a unique to user shape,  would be some kind off skirt that comes out of the rear of the helmet covering the neck are from rear to rear.

This could be a inflatable pad like the inners off an ayrtek to aid movement. Or could be a Stretton fox style padding cut into strips  and dangling free so as to not limit movement.


Unfortunately all 3 of the above will be met with disgust (very much like the new masuri of which I was guilty) and would probably not take off. and an
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2014, 06:26:00 PM »

Get rid of them in amateur cricket. Definitely.

And sledging and all the other nonsense.

It's about time the penny dropped...
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2014, 06:35:20 PM »

Get rid of them in amateur cricket. Definitely.

And sledging and all the other nonsense.

It's about time the penny dropped...

Going on your post from the other thread. I'm gonna presume you would ban them under the pretence you also ban bouncers?

If so you are presuming all bowlers know what there bowling?

We have a quick bowler that is very fast but very irratic. I believe he has no idea where he is pitching it.
Calling a no ball isn't gonna help the batsmen if he is struck by said ball?

Same with a beamer, it's very very much illegal, and when I tried to bowl a yorker and the damp ball slipped and hit the batsmen in his grill, I definately didn't mean to bowl it. I was so thankful he was wearing a helmet!

Add to that the 2 incidents I've had that resulted in injuries, both were off the edge of the bat before finding there way to my head, and the actual reason I know wear a helmet, not due to fear off a bouncer.
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2014, 06:35:24 PM »

For me it took our opening bat to top edge a pull shot into his face and break his cheek Bone and eye socket to buy a helmet and I wear it but I don't wear the chin strap and the helmet is cracked at the side after I threw it against a wall after a bad decision( not my proudest moment ) so I will buy a new one for sure but to honest not sure what will happen ICC will surely have to fund R&D into improving helmets so this can't happen and incidents like kieswetter and broard will not happen again. Like to see what ayrtek and masuri come up with in the future.

RIP Phil Hughes and got to feel for Sean Abbott to


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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2014, 06:57:30 PM »

I think regardless of the standard of cricket you play a helmet should be law I for one will be wearing a lid next season
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2014, 06:57:57 PM »

Yep, I have been seeing a lot about Sean and although tragic for Phillip and his family I hope Sean gets the support he needs to get through this and an awful incident doesn't define the life of a young person and cut short his career also.

Personally I had never really batted using a helmet although I did own one. I had decided at the end of last season that safe was definitely better than sorry and being self employed with a young family I decided to get an arytek.

We all have to decide for ourselves but no doubt this will make a lot of people consider a helmet more. Which in the long run will be a good thing. As for changes and banning this and that I'm not a fan. However tragic and hard this event is its such a rare event we really have to be careful about an in appropriate reaction to what on the whole is a sport that has a good mix of risk and safety that makes it enjoyable to play. I know Phillip has lost his life but I don't view playing cricket as putting my life in danger anymore than getting out of bed in the morning. We have to innovate to enjoy the game. Not eliminate all the risk that most of us partly play the game to be part of.
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2014, 07:22:03 PM »

I think regardless of the standard of cricket you play a helmet should be law I for one will be wearing a lid next season

Yeah I agree with that and likewise
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2014, 07:32:36 PM »

I am not a fan of compulsory helmets. I agree that under 18's should have to wear them as then they get used to it and will continue that practise for the rest of their career.  However, as an older guy I have never worn one (although I top edged a Beamer into my face while playing junior county cricket), I also have never worn a box or thigh pad (thankfully I have never been hit there, I'm sure it improves my technique) It is individual choice.
To some degree the batsmen are more at risk of a wayward throw as often a shot played in front of the wicket will be thrown in with the back of the batsman exposed.
also, if we go down this route will we see fielding positions such as short leg banned?
It is a tragic incident but I am sure that He would want the game to continue as it was. It was a game he loved and the battle between batsman and bowler a challenge he relished.
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2014, 07:53:19 PM »

intersting article on it here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30206381
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2014, 08:04:55 PM »

I imagine most of you here agree that masuri's tweet trying to distance themselves from the accident while Philip Hughes was on life support was crass in the extreme. However putting emotion to one side (which is hard because I'm a bit shocked by how upset I feel about an incident which happened to somebody I never knew personally) do we know EXACTLY where he was hit, and is it possible that the more extensive grille on the post-2012 elites and on the current vision series provides just a bit more protection to this area. It might not have saved him but might reduce the risk of this kind of impact? It'll certainly make me think harder about what helmet to get this winter, was going to replace my old Masuri anyway.
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2014, 08:08:51 PM »





 ICC must react and alter rules for players safety,  i m not comfortable with players standing close to batsman for catching purpose.

However i blame modern day cricket also i-e T20 's where players just close eyes and whack, the way warner pulls the ball is an example, i dont know why bowling bouncer 1 for the over is allowed lol i mean seriously, i am afraid for modern day batsmen emerging to international scene, just watch this example above  where Cameron White wanted to whack a ball  :-[

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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2014, 08:44:09 PM »

I remember buying a helmet when I was at school many moons ago.  Back then staff and pupils alike all mocked me and took great delight in terming me a big timer, etc.  Unlike the herd, I just cracked on as I was always happy to put my safety first and just hope others can find something positive in this very sad turn of events.  I would like to offer my thanks to all the manufactures such as Ayrtek, Masuri, etc that spend so much money and time trying to constantly push the boundaries and make things as safe as possible for all levels of cricketers.

I am a distinctly average cricketer now and need the protection more than ever!  Keep up the good work chaps in protecting our noggins!
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2014, 09:05:26 PM »

@ManHOOS That is a poor example.  Bowlers should always have the right to bowl a bouncer.  Likewise, batsmen shouldn't be forced to wear a helmet.

I think we will see helmet manufacturers looking at what they can do at the back of the head,  but this is the hardest area to protect effectively whilst maintaining movement that doesn't impact a batsman's ability to see the ball.

I'm sure we will see some additional changes although I'm not clear what those might be.
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2014, 09:40:22 PM »

IMHO the bouncer should still be legal, but I don't think we will see a bowler bowl one for a while, just because of what's happened. Hopefully whats happened to Phil Hughes will create a review of all cricket and where it's heading including protection. I personally think T20 needs to be looked at. I think the Dilscoop should be banned, I've thought for a while it won't long before a batsman, keeper or close fielder not there for that shot will be hurt. Also you see kids playing it which is very worrying, you could also put in there the reverse hit and slower ball bouncer, which puts the batsman in exactly the position Hughes was hit with the ball still in flight. Anyway just my thoughts, I'm often wrong.
Tonight I've been listening to radio 5, a replay of Hughes talking about his youth and playing cricket brought tears to my eyes.
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