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Re: Australia vs India 4th Test @ The S.C.G.
« Reply #180 on: January 06, 2015, 01:15:17 PM »

There's a saying in boxing 'skills pay the bills', unfortunately for India's bowlers is rings true as well. That lack the skills for Test cricket. They simply can't even bowl to a plan. Off stump channel. They are over all the shop. Dreadful.
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Re: Australia vs India 4th Test @ The S.C.G.
« Reply #181 on: January 06, 2015, 01:19:30 PM »

There's a saying in boxing 'skills pay the bills', unfortunately for India's bowlers is rings true as well. That lack the skills for Test cricket. They simply can't even bowl to a plan. Off stump channel. They are over all the shop. Dreadful.

Helps if the fielders can catch too ;)
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« Reply #182 on: January 06, 2015, 01:37:35 PM »

Because the cleff is cut a certain way by the merchants certain sizes are impossible and Becaaue grays cut there own they can create different dimensions.

Take the hell 4leather massive spine bat that would not come from a "normal cleff" but oversized that's my point and yes it will be low density/dried.

The (Old) Tempo spine is partly created by having smaller 25-30mm edges, not the regulation 40mm edges we seem to have. Small edges/Big Spine will create an optical illusion of a bigger spine than say a 40mm bat and 60mm spine. You will also struggle to find a Tempo lower than 2-12. Chances are the only real low density ones are below 2-12 and there wasn't many of them around.  No real mystery to it.

I've played around in the shop with one or two M&H Distinctions in the past and the 2'9-10 ones where pretty ordinary spine wise compared to a 2'13/14 ones.
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Re: Australia vs India 4th Test @ The S.C.G.
« Reply #183 on: January 06, 2015, 06:21:04 PM »

Where are the cries of "unsporting" playing conditions?

The boundary is pullled in by another "10 meters" according to Ian Healey ( other commentators commented on it as well). The pitch has no life and this is the third test where this has happened - Adelaide, MCG (and now Sydney) had  "batting" (euphemism for a dead-for-bowlers) pitches.

Boo!
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Re: Australia vs India 4th Test @ The S.C.G.
« Reply #184 on: January 06, 2015, 06:40:59 PM »

Where are the cries of "unsporting" playing conditions?

The boundary is pullled in by another "10 meters" according to Ian Healey ( other commentators commented on it as well). The pitch has no life and this is the third test where this has happened - Adelaide, MCG (and now Sydney) had  "batting" (euphemism for a dead-for-bowlers) pitches.

Boo!

To be honest the schedule being mixed around a bit probably hasn't aided the ground staff in preparing ideal pitches that much. Test cricket has its limits on minimum boundary size I believe, and it's equal for both teams (unlike pitch conditions which some may prefer) so I don't really see much of a problem there personally.
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Re: Australia vs India 4th Test @ The S.C.G.
« Reply #185 on: January 07, 2015, 12:02:08 AM »

The (Old) Tempo spine is partly created by having smaller 25-30mm edges, not the regulation 40mm edges we seem to have. Small edges/Big Spine will create an optical illusion of a bigger spine than say a 40mm bat and 60mm spine. You will also struggle to find a Tempo lower than 2-12. Chances are the only real low density ones are below 2-12 and there wasn't many of them around.  No real mystery to it.

I've played around in the shop with one or two M&H Distinctions in the past and the 2'9-10 ones where pretty ordinary spine wise compared to a 2'13/14 ones.

Nick i do not mean H4L are overdried or low density they might be i mean Warners Bat pal.

And it may be a optical illusion but because Matt (Sorry Matt i do believe you cut your own clefts) does his own clefts he cuts them to his requirements giving him control on things like spine hight and with the tempo it spine looks bigger than what a normal sized cleft can give
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Re: Australia vs India 4th Test @ The S.C.G.
« Reply #186 on: January 07, 2015, 04:12:52 AM »

I think the point about cutting is valid in the sense that it limits how big a bat could be. Standard clefts I think are limited to 70 or 75 mm in raw form, while oversized ones are 80-85mm at the apex with correspondingly bigger edges. So that limits the maximum size possible in terms of edges/spines for most bats.

Pretty sure than GN definitely use oversize clefts on some models (at least in the heavy weights) as their extreme models in the UK (or the Australian Colossus) can be quite massive. If they cut their own, would not be much hassle to use a special cleft for a pro like David Warner. Then you can add all the other aspects like lighter density etc.

As for the optical illusion, i think that is also true particularly with the Tempo or the Distinction. I have a fairly heavy tempo (2.14 or so) with spine around 68mm. On its own it looks very massive, and I think the same applies when you see it in pictures by itself. The small edges and large spine lead to an exaggerated effect in terms of how big it is. Whereas if you compared it to other bats at a similar or slightly heavier weight with the standard large edge profile you can see its not all that massive either (at least in this case).
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Re: Australia vs India 4th Test @ The S.C.G.
« Reply #187 on: January 07, 2015, 05:07:15 AM »

Starc gives M. Vijay a send off. Bad form! Boo!
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Re: Australia vs India 4th Test @ The S.C.G.
« Reply #188 on: January 07, 2015, 05:13:57 AM »

Australia are looking sharp in the outfield! dominant over what seems to be a very 'shaky' indian top order
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Re: Australia vs India 4th Test @ The S.C.G.
« Reply #189 on: January 07, 2015, 06:40:48 AM »

Starc gives M. Vijay a send off. Bad form! Boo!

Starc putting a nice show for the commentators. "Soft" as warne called him
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Re: Australia vs India 4th Test @ The S.C.G.
« Reply #190 on: January 07, 2015, 06:49:59 AM »

India have done well not to loose any more wickets. Good to see Rahul get over his nerves and bat pretty well. Rohit Sharma also looking pretty good.

Starc by far the most dangerous of the Aussie bowlers, bowling accurately and quickly (well into the 140's). Should be interesting tomorrow. I would think India would have to get over 400 at the minimum to have a chance of drawing the match.
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Re: Australia vs India 4th Test @ The S.C.G.
« Reply #191 on: January 07, 2015, 07:06:02 AM »

Brad Haddin used Warner's behemoth GN. I am recognized it by the three tapes that were put on it…commentators caught onto that later. :D

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Re: Australia vs India 4th Test @ The S.C.G.
« Reply #192 on: January 07, 2015, 07:09:02 AM »

Starc putting a nice show for the commentators. "Soft" as warne called him

Class act that warne. He is corrupting the youth.
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Re: Australia vs India 4th Test @ The S.C.G.
« Reply #193 on: January 07, 2015, 08:04:14 AM »

Brad Haddin used Warner's behemoth GN. I am recognized it by the three tapes that were put on it…commentators caught onto that later. :D

I want that bat!

Don't you mean Ryan Harris? Especially as Haddin uses a Kookaburra ;)
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Re: Australia vs India 4th Test @ The S.C.G.
« Reply #194 on: January 07, 2015, 08:19:04 AM »

^ Yup, Ryan Harris.  :D
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