Topic: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking (Read 16908 times)

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #30 on:** December 23, 2014, 11:11:33 AM »

Quote from: Dan W on December 23, 2014, 10:52:27 AM

On what grounds?!

Chip, meet shoulder

On the grounds that it is a way of getting (very) cheap labour?

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #31 on:** December 23, 2014, 11:14:15 AM »

Quote from: Nmcgee on December 23, 2014, 11:11:38 AM

Yes, I agree.....what are you basing that on?

See answer above.

Nmcgee · « **Reply #32 on:** December 23, 2014, 11:15:48 AM »

It is entirely possible Bats, but I wonder why you are taking this line of argument with such gusto?

procricket · « **Reply #33 on:** December 23, 2014, 11:19:55 AM »

I guess your dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.

Our two lads are doing very well and loving it and for a cricket mad person the ideal job.

IF i was a young lad i would jump at it no questions �100 quid or not and prove myself worthy at the end just saying like.

Fair play any who take on people the industry is not as glamourious as people think there not many barons out there just people trying to make a living.

They do not have to offer anything out fair play and good luck to the lucky person who gets the job at Millichamp or whoever..

I guess it supply and demand i guarantee people want this position and you don't get anything without hard yakka. So my theory is work hard prove your the deal make it so they can't let you go at the end!!!!

JB · « **Reply #34 on:** December 23, 2014, 11:32:27 AM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on December 23, 2014, 11:11:33 AM

On the grounds that it is a way of getting (very) cheap labour?

We employ apprentice truck mechanics and have never let one go at the end of the 2 years. The last one had been here 4 years and left to get a job at a main dealer. He walked into the job as his training had been that comprehensive. I'm not 100% sure as to what they get paid though. Saying that every employer only takes on apprentices to take advantage of cheap labour is completely wrong. How would you propose that young people get to learn the skills you can't get in a classroom?

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #35 on:** December 23, 2014, 11:49:15 AM »

Quote from: Nmcgee on December 23, 2014, 11:15:48 AM

It is entirely possible Bats, but I wonder why you are taking this line of argument with such gusto?

The right for adults to earn a fair living wage is something everyone should be passionate about.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #36 on:** December 23, 2014, 11:51:01 AM »

Quote from: procricket B3 on December 23, 2014, 11:19:55 AM

IF i was a young lad i would jump at it no questions �100 quid or not and prove myself worthy at the end just saying like.

How would you pay for somewhere to live? Feed yourself? You'd have to rely on your parents?

Tom · « **Reply #37 on:** December 23, 2014, 12:01:24 PM »

It's really aimed at local people, aged around 16 who otherwise would be going to college/6th, hence why it's advertised with a local training agency.

procricket · « **Reply #38 on:** December 23, 2014, 12:02:44 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on December 23, 2014, 11:51:01 AM

How would you pay for somewhere to live? Feed yourself? You'd have to rely on your parents?

I would get a 2nd job mate or offer my services on weekends..

My theory is if you want something bad enough you will get it.

We all start at the bottom or at least most do other are offering similar things. I was paid �40 quid a week YTS at a golf club so i learnt to caddy quick and ended up on �200 quid a week.

It a start for somebody it up to them to grab it we live in a nanny state people expect everything on a plate.

Are you unemployed at the minute ? you sound very negative somebody is going to get a chance, It is up to them what they do with that chance....

Agree with Tom either go to collage and earn nothing now maybe more later or take a chance go part to college and learn a trade and get a bit of money.

If i was 16 i would be straight there....

Very limited jobs in the industry and this is target at a audience will not suit all but it is there...

JB · « **Reply #39 on:** December 23, 2014, 12:05:43 PM »

If you are between 16-20 and go to school how do you feed yourself? Where do you live? With your parents!! These apprenticeships are aimed at young people who want to learn outside of the classroom instead of higher education

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #40 on:** December 23, 2014, 12:10:56 PM »

Quote from: JB on December 23, 2014, 12:05:43 PM

If you are between 16-20 and go to school how do you feed yourself? Where do you live? With your parents!! These apprenticeships are aimed at young people who want to learn outside of the classroom instead of higher education

And if your parents can't afford to support you?

procricket · « **Reply #41 on:** December 23, 2014, 12:12:15 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on December 23, 2014, 12:10:56 PM

And if your parents can't afford to support you?

You get a second job.

Can you see no positives at all for a young un?

JB · « **Reply #42 on:** December 23, 2014, 12:15:44 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on December 23, 2014, 12:10:56 PM

And if your parents can't afford to support you?

What when they have afforded to keep you from 0-16??? I paid �40 of my �100/week to my parents for board.

Were you one of the apprentices that got ditched after 2 years perhaps???

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #43 on:** December 23, 2014, 12:18:14 PM »

Quote from: procricket B3 on December 23, 2014, 12:12:15 PM

You get a second job.

Can you see no positives at all for a young un?

"It's better than the alternative" seems to be your argument. As is that of all employers not willing to pay a living wage.

We're not even allowed to know if M&H actually make their �450 bats, ffs!

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #44 on:** December 23, 2014, 12:20:09 PM »

Quote from: JB on December 23, 2014, 12:15:44 PM

What when they have afforded to keep you from 0-16??? I paid �40 of my �100/week to my parents for board.

Were you one of the apprentices that got ditched after 2 years perhaps???

No, I wasn't. I have a degree and a trade.

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