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We got one.execellent bowling from ol big head

[ProCricketer1982]

England have declared, and windies need 438 in 140 overs.


So being very presumptive. When will england win?

Eng were always going to win, forgone conclusion as graves stated

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Erm, at the last count I'd say he had at least four technical flaws - an inability to complete his trigger movement in time to be still for delivery, head falling over to off, a lack of foot movement toward the ball at any point and a closed face when driving.  That's a LOT of technical faults - and unlike most players with such flaws, they all amount in their sum to one huge issue, namely that a well pitched up ball that is off stump or outside is more or less unplayable to him.

Is he unredeemable?  Maybe not - but these are not flaws that are suddenly going to click in over a game or two - at the moment his batting is going backwards and becoming technically worse in the same way an elite golfer's swing has to get worse before it improves.   It takes a rank fool to believe that everything is suddenly going to click into place when he has another Test Tuesday and then late the following week and...oh, you must get the picture.

All the while remember that Hussain, Virgil and Strauss were good, exceptional and very good respectively as leaders of men (Cook rates average on a good day) and solid, awesome and clever as tacticians (don't get me started) so there is no real tactical reason why we need Cook as figurehead...

Excellent points,unanswerable without talking gibberish.the golf comparison could be used with woods,sandy lyle,nick faldo-all rebuilt their swing with the help of specialists...

[ProCricketer1982]

Excellent points,unanswerable without talking gibberish.the golf comparison could be used with woods,sandy lyle,nick faldo-all rebuilt their swing with the help of specialists...

Again, he's been like this for two or more years, has th best coaching and facilities available... And hasn't fixed it

[ijmorgan]

Excellent points,unanswerable without talking gibberish.the golf comparison could be used with woods,sandy lyle,nick faldo all rebuilt their swing with the help of specialists...

To be fair the swings where re built not because they where no good but for injury prevention and longevity in Woods case and Faldo wanted a more repeatable swing so he could contend in majors sacrificing distance for accuracy, not read Lyles autobiography so not sure on his reason. So in Cooks case to use a golf analogy you wouldn't take your new swing or what your working on to a Major you would hit the Tour to grove the changes ie county cricket.

[csnew]

Tredwell's been pretty poor so far against 2 lefty's who have historically struggled against off spin. Bowling a bit to slow for me! Does Joe Root no longer turn his arm over?

Reckon England batted 5/6 overs to many, no chance of west indies getting 438.

[smilley792]

England look flat.

Our lass is not amused I'm making her watch it.

[csnew]

and joe root strikes! more threatening in 7 balls than Tredwell all spell.

Another ripper of a catch from Jordan!

[smilley792]

Roooooooooooooooooooot


Think it helps he bowls at 57-60. Not the 45mph treds is bowling.

[csnew]

This should be over pretty quickly now. Just give chanderpaul the single and get the rest out

[WalkingWicket37]

Oh Jimmy Jimmy.
Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy Andersoooooooooooooon

[golders]

Would love to be watching Rashid bowling now.
Not a massive turner of the ball,Tredwell, is he?

[ProCricketer1982]

Predictable victory even more predictable now. Chanderpaul out

So who for team ECB has actually performed this match?

Bell
Ballance
Buttler (played an odi innings but it's what was needed)
Stokes (runs and imputus)

For me that's it, oh roots ok

Questions need asking about Cook, Trott, tredwell, Anderson (has really done much), broad (to me he's not been as effective as he should)

[smilley792]

I'll reiterate what I said earlier.


Roooooooooooooooooooot

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COME ON!!!!!!!