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Beginners guide to buffing
« on: April 16, 2015, 07:25:19 AM »

Have been cleaning up a few bats of late and really trying to improve the finish. Can anyone offer some tips on buffing the bat (tools, products) for a complete novice (and idiot) :)
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Re: Beginners guide to buffing
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2015, 07:52:04 AM »

If you oil, leave it overnight to harden before buffing, same with wax.  You can get something called white diamond buffing compound, but only use it on a clean buffing wheel.

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Re: Beginners guide to buffing
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2015, 08:13:27 AM »

Thanks for the advice. With regards to buffing wheels, any advice of which one to get or avoid?

Do you use the diamond buffing compound as a substitute to wax/oil?
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Re: Beginners guide to buffing
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2015, 08:59:33 AM »

TBH, I prefer the finish from wax and oil, but that's just personal preference.

Buffing wheel wise, I use a loose wheel for wax/oil and a soft stitched wheel for the compound (mainly because that's what's reccomended for woodturning applicaions!  I use the motor on my lathe, so I can set the variable speed to about 1500 RPM.  Any faster and the finish doesn't get into the wood.

The buffing compnd is ever so slightly abrasive, equivalent to, I think about 1200 grit, so gives a nice sheen.  You don't need a lot (made that mistake first time i used it!), just hold the bar up to the buffing wheel as it spins for a couple of seconds, to coat the whole face of the wheel and gentle pressure of bat onto wheel.  Too heavy and you stop the wheel.

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Re: Beginners guide to buffing
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2015, 11:03:45 AM »

Ian                                                                                                                                                                                      if its any help i brought a soft stitched buffing wheel that's fits into an hand drill  3/8Th chuck from Tool Station for £ 2.60p.
Last week works a treat bringing out the shine once the bat as been oiled.
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Re: Beginners guide to buffing
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2015, 11:33:10 AM »

Thanks, should have said i'll be using a drill (i have the drill). @Seniorplayer any chance you can link me to something?
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Re: Beginners guide to buffing
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2015, 11:46:02 AM »

If it has any kind of speed function, the lowest setting is usually fast enough.  Otherwise it'll be too fast...

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Re: Beginners guide to buffing
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2015, 12:32:25 PM »

Thanks, should have said i'll be using a drill (i have the drill). @Seniorplayer any chance you can link me to something?

Just spotted your post
In the on line Tool Station Catalogue Double  stitched Buffing wheel Code 38981
You will need a tapered drill spindle.

   Also   Loose Leaf Buffing Wheel for final polishing 100 0/0 cotton  comes with 1/4 shaft fitted to wheel for hand drill chuck £2.55p
   Code 51172.
Alan
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Re: Beginners guide to buffing
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2015, 12:40:47 PM »

Was hoping to come into the topic and read a viewers guide to ogling Sarah-Michelle Gellar....alas its not the case
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Re: Beginners guide to buffing
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2015, 12:42:51 PM »

You don't need a tapered drill spindle.  That's only if you're using a pillar drill or lathe.  Should be able to find something with a straight shank that the drill chuck jaws will be able to grab.

http://www.turners-retreat.co.uk/finishes/finishes-1/chestnut-finishing-products/chestnut-buffing-wheel-kit

I use a similar set up to this system for buffing the bowls I make, fits into the jacobs chuck (drill chuck) which goes in the morse taper on my lathe.  It should fit straight into a normal electric drill.

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Re: Beginners guide to buffing
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2015, 01:04:28 PM »

If ian buys the buffing wheel code 98381 from tool station  he will need a spindle for the drill  as the double stitched buffing wheel from  Tool Station does not come with one.
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Re: Beginners guide to buffing
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2015, 01:28:51 PM »

If it has any kind of speed function, the lowest setting is usually fast enough.  Otherwise it'll be too fast...

It does have a variable speed function but thanks for letting me know
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Re: Beginners guide to buffing
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2015, 01:29:17 PM »

Was hoping to come into the topic and read a viewers guide to ogling Sarah-Michelle Gellar....alas its not the case

Showing your age there Thomas!
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Re: Beginners guide to buffing
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2015, 01:31:32 PM »

If ian buys the buffing wheel code 98381 from tool station  he will need a spindle for the drill  as the double stitched buffing wheel from  Tool Station does not come with one.


I've found it online, far from being my area of expertise basically are you saying something to fit the buffing wheel into so that it fits into the drill?

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or would this kit be everything i could need? http://www.toolstation.com/m/part.html?p=58727

FURTHER EDIT

Or this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/9pc-Silverline-Polishing-Kit-Dome-Goblet-Cylinder-Mop-Buffing-Wheel-Compound-/311257454880?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item487863d920
« Last Edit: April 16, 2015, 01:38:09 PM by iand123 »
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Re: Beginners guide to buffing
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2015, 01:46:29 PM »

Those mops will do if you use compound.  Don;t use anyhting other than white compound though.  I tried the brown before white, like you do when buffing other woods, but the brown stains the willow, well, brown!
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