Topic: League rule changes (Read 9048 times)

edge · « **on:** September 09, 2015, 10:18:57 PM »

Just found out that our league (Bristol and District) is proposing some rule changes for next season:

9 overs per bowler down from 12 in 45 over games
8 overs per bowler down from 10 in 40 over games (lower leagues)
NO TEAS

I'm torn between that I've always thought 12 overs is daft and lets teams get away with being very unbalanced, and selfish thoughts that I want my 12 overs!
As for no teas, bugger that. They tried it last year and it got voted down, hopefully it does again.

Forum thoughts? Imagine voting will end up being split by which clubs have only 4 bowlers and which have more, or how many bowlers there are on club committees!

Cin88 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 09, 2015, 10:48:53 PM »

No teas!? No way Pedro, as Delboy used to say.
I wouldn't be too bothered by a reduced over restriction on bowlers, it should (read as: probably won't somehow) get more people involved rather than standing about bored for 40-45 overs. The soon to be former North Manchester League has no restrictions on adult bowlers (juniors only get 8 overs I think) as far as overs go, it leads to some very funny looking team sheets at times, i've seen opening bowlers do the full 45 between them a few times.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 09, 2015, 11:11:30 PM »

5 bowlers is a good thing, means teams need depth and gets more players a game.. Only a good thing participation wise.

jwebber86 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 09, 2015, 11:22:45 PM »

I like the idea of the reduction in the numbers of overs allowed. our league have max of 12 in a 40 over innings which i think is too many

as for no teas i dont see that improving anything

smilley792 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 10, 2015, 05:00:03 AM »

Last year at our agm a club proposed no teas. No other club seconded it.

This year(although in a Facebook dedication before the agm) the league has this time suggested no teas!!

The idea has not been met with happiness.
Starting to wonder if it's something there trying to pass down from the top??

That's one thing that would make me consider to retire on Saturdays. The tea is one of my favourite parts, and shan't be happy playing without it.

thecord · « **Reply #5 on:** September 10, 2015, 06:07:31 AM »

@edge where did you find out about these proposed changes mate? I've not had anything from the league

mdg20 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 10, 2015, 07:19:10 AM »

I quite like the idea of no teas. It's one way of trying to keep costs down and removes the hassle of finding volunteers/bullying mums/wives into doing it every year.
Barely eat anything at tea though, really isn't great stuffing your face just before going out to bat or keep. I'd much prefer food after the game.

Stuey · « **Reply #7 on:** September 10, 2015, 07:41:49 AM »

Quote from: mdg20 on September 10, 2015, 07:19:10 AM

I quite like the idea of no teas. It's one way of trying to keep costs down and removes the hassle of finding volunteers/bullying mums/wives into doing it every year.
Barely eat anything at tea though, really isn't great stuffing your face just before going out to bat or keep. I'd much prefer food after the game.

im with you on this, its getting harder to find people to provide teas. And if you are batting in the top 4'or fielding after tea you don't get to eat much anyway. Simple tea/juice cake/fruit etc would suffice or bring your own. Teas are getting out of hand anyway, at some places you get a banquet including ours, with the club footing the bill.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 10, 2015, 08:10:39 AM »

Quote from: mdg20 on September 10, 2015, 07:19:10 AM

I quite like the idea of no teas. It's one way of trying to keep costs down and removes the hassle of finding volunteers/bullying mums/wives into doing it every year.
Barely eat anything at tea though, really isn't great stuffing your face just before going out to bat or keep. I'd much prefer food after the game.

Tea in friendlies is great, I never eat any during league games though and also think it would save on costs and less reliance on players/volunteers being it pressured. Plus, your break can be 10 mins between innings then, rather then 30+ mins.. Saves time which as we are told, is why people can't play.

Our club pay about �60 for teas per game (�35 from oppos), that's a hefty saving per game, and a massive chunk off the match fee. Tbh, while I like traditional part of the game, teas is one thing that can go. Clubs can put food on post match for everyone as a way to get people to stay and use their bar (loss leader). I'd imagine our home match fe would go from �7 to about �4 in an instant which I suspect would be most welcome

spoonbed · « **Reply #9 on:** September 10, 2015, 08:13:43 AM »

Also the first I've heard about it in the B&D?

Not in agreement with the bowling restrictions, and certainly not regarding teas!!!
To me( being biased, as I'm a fat barsteward) teas are the only truly sociable part of the day, more so than in the bar after the game( when the opposing teams tend to stay in their own huddles.

RoCo Da Pixie · « **Reply #10 on:** September 10, 2015, 08:16:27 AM »

I think the restriction to overs is good. If you play limited over cricket you should have a maximum amount of overs to split into 5.

40 overs have 5 x 8
45 overs have 5 x 9

That way it is a game where you need 6 or 7 bowlers to be included in the team.

The idea to abolish tea is just not cricket. If they abolish tea does that mean the match fee's are lowered? It would mean that the majority will bring a pack lunch with them or pop to the shop mid innings as a game from 11-8 on a Saturday will mean people will want some food.

trypewriter · « **Reply #11 on:** September 10, 2015, 08:20:07 AM »

I think most leagues that I know of have an 8 over limit in 40 over games.
No teas - sounds a bit perilous to me!

uknsaunders · « **Reply #12 on:** September 10, 2015, 08:31:19 AM »

Having played much of my time in the TVL where 2 guys can bowl 26 overs between them, I'm all in favour of promoting balanced teams. The leagues I have played in recently did 45 overs, one league limited it to 12 overs per bowler, the other 10.

Teas are a tricky one. Personally, I'd welcome a smaller tea in a league game. Especially if it promotes healthy eating. I would argue a light tea is cheaper for hard up clubs and healthier for the players. Whether it should be done away with on a Saturday at least is another matter. Certainly not in friendly cricket.

RoCo Da Pixie · « **Reply #13 on:** September 10, 2015, 08:37:37 AM »

Quote from: uknsaunders on September 10, 2015, 08:31:19 AM

Having played much of my time in the TVL where 2 guys can bowl 26 overs between them, I'm all in favour of promoting balanced teams. The leagues I have played in recently did 45 overs, one league limited it to 12 overs per bowler, the other 10.

Teas are a tricky one. Personally, I'd welcome a smaller tea in a league game. Especially if it promotes healthy eating. I would argue a light tea is cheaper for hard up clubs and healthier for the players. Whether it should be done away with on a Saturday at least is another matter. Certainly not in friendly cricket.

Nick I have just moved into playing in the TVL and as an off spinner I have been used for several 18 over + spells which is a first as there has always been a cap on overs in other leagues I have played. I think the TVL needs updating and implementing fairer rules for alls.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #14 on:** September 10, 2015, 09:30:51 AM »

Quote from: mdg20 on September 10, 2015, 07:19:10 AM

I quite like the idea of no teas. It's one way of trying to keep costs down and removes the hassle of finding volunteers/bullying mums/wives into doing it every year.
Barely eat anything at tea though, really isn't great stuffing your face just before going out to bat or keep. I'd much prefer food after the game.

writing as a player whose wife as shopped for food prepared food transported and served food at the club for many seasons
I think it is a good idea and it will eventually happen as clubs find it more difficult to get people to do teas voluntarily andi its nearly always The same people doing teas each week . Tea Rotas don't work Caterers as we know are expensive Also as costs have risen the the standard of teas has also dropped over the years. And has anyone else noticed that quite a few of the players who want teas eat more of them but never volunteer to do them. And in any case Players that want a tea could always bring there own.

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