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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #120 on: November 23, 2015, 10:46:31 AM »

Ballance is and will be a very good player for England.

Agree. I am far less sure that Hales will cut it as a aTest opener. And is Compton really a better player than he was three or four years ago?
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #121 on: November 23, 2015, 10:49:32 AM »

Haven't the selectors already said that Bairstow will keep?
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #122 on: November 23, 2015, 10:52:58 AM »

Buttler has had a shocker with the bat but the guy has breathtaking talent. His ton in the last one dayer was almost beyond belief

England have and will invest in him long term.

I think they want Buttler in that position and Bairstow is just 'filling in' . Of the two Buttler is a more natural keeper....and his keeping is actually improving.

Tough call I think between them
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #123 on: November 23, 2015, 10:57:53 AM »

Buttler has had a shocker with the bat but the guy has breathtaking talent. His ton in the last one dayer was almost beyond belief

England have and will invest in him long term.

I think they want Buttler in that position and Bairstow is just 'filling in' . Of the two Buttler is a more natural keeper....and his keeping is actually improving.

Tough call I think between them

Once agsin, I agree eith your sentiments. I wss just stating what I thought was fact.

Bsirstow is a better batsman than Compton. As in Moeen Ali. Ali could have made a good no 5. Thing is, he'll never get the chance now.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #124 on: November 23, 2015, 11:06:34 AM »

Once agsin, I agree eith your sentiments. I wss just stating what I thought was fact.

Bsirstow is a better batsman than Compton. As in Moeen Ali. Ali could have made a good no 5. Thing is, he'll never get the chance now.
Psshhhh Bairstow is in no way a better bat than Compton, and Ali is in no way a top 6 test bat - he didn't end up at 8 because of all the amazing runs he'd been scoring at 6!
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #125 on: November 23, 2015, 11:25:12 AM »

Psshhhh Bairstow is in no way a better bat than Compton, and Ali is in no way a top 6 test bat - he didn't end up at 8 because of all the amazing runs he'd been scoring at 6!

I wholeheartedly stand by my first statement. Perhaps not my second. It would have been a far better way of getting two 'spinners' in the side though.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #126 on: November 23, 2015, 11:25:41 AM »

Once agsin, I agree eith your sentiments. I wss just stating what I thought was fact.

Bsirstow is a better batsman than Compton. As in Moeen Ali. Ali could have made a good no 5. Thing is, he'll never get the chance now.

Compton is a far better and technical batsman than Bairstow he also knows how to play straight and Ali is a No  8 or 9
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #127 on: November 23, 2015, 11:28:40 AM »

I should point out that eveyone on here thought Adam Lyth was a better bat than Compton at the start of last summer. And Sam Robson the summer before that...
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #128 on: November 23, 2015, 11:30:18 AM »

Compton is a far better and technical batsman than Bairstow he also knows how to play straight and Ali is a No  8 or 9

Well, we might as well play Gareth Batty then.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #129 on: November 23, 2015, 11:30:42 AM »

it's all about opinions Bats and you got yours.

I think myself Compton is a very good player and there's no comparison with Bairstow-who is a (very good) thumper. Compton technically and mentally is equipped to bat high up.
There's a big difference batting top 3 and middle order...

Ali is an not capable of batting in top order,good player again....., but really you need something different to bat up top.First up you need to play the quick stuff.

I'd bet everything I have Ali will not bat higher than 6 or 7 in an England shirt again...unless he happen to be playing Bangladesh or Zimbabwe...

 :) :)
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #130 on: November 23, 2015, 11:31:52 AM »

No. 1 or no. 9. Easy mistake to make!
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #131 on: November 23, 2015, 11:33:56 AM »

it's all about opinions Bats and you got yours.

I think myself Compton is a very good player and there's no comparison with Bairstow-who is a (very good) thumper. Compton technically and mentally is equipped to bat high up.
There's a big difference batting top 3 and middle order...

Ali is an not capable of batting in top order,good player again....., but really you need something different to bat up top.First up you need to play the quick stuff.

I'd bet everything I have Ali will not bat higher than 6 or 7 in an England shirt again...unless he happen to be playing Bangladesh or Zimbabwe...

 :) :)

I wasn't suggesting Bairstow batted at 3. In fact, I wasn't necessarily even suggesting he was in the side.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #132 on: November 23, 2015, 11:34:11 AM »

I have always thought that Compton has the technique to cope in the top 3.
And Ali is 6-8 in my book. Very good number 8!
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #133 on: November 23, 2015, 11:35:49 AM »

I agree that Ali will not bat in the top five for England again.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #134 on: November 23, 2015, 11:35:54 AM »

Ali's right role is as the spinner(who also can get runs down the order)

think Swann,Giles,Embury,Croft......go back as far as you want. Ok Panesar could not bat...

England think he is the best spinner so he gets in. If you want my opinion(!) between Ali,Rashid and Patel I don't know who is the best.

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