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[northernboy1987]

Best not to rush Anderson as we need him fully fit for the T20 World Cup. Might be an option to keep him away from Tests and play him in One Dayers?


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No offense meant but that is the craziest thing I've read on here for ages haha, don't waste what time he has left on T20 when we actually have a perfectly respectable T20 bowling attack with Willey et al.

[sfa82]

What a disappointing performance by SA. England did so many things well and everyone contributed.

Definitely a few changes needed. AB shouldn't keep and keep him fresh for batting. A specialist opener needed for sure and maybe Van Zyl to move to middle order in place of Bavuma. Rabada for the unfit Steyn.

No changes for England I suppose unless Jimmy fit.

[SOULMAN1012]

Best not to rush Anderson as we need him fully fit for the T20 World Cup. Might be an option to keep him away from Tests and play him in One Dayers?


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I'll have what ever your drinking or smoking mate.

And I'm sure if you tried saying to Andereon have a rest ready for the one dayers T20 World Cup he would punch there lights out, worlds best test bowler along side Steyn over recent times

[ppccopener]

cant see Anderson or Broad playing another one day game let alone the T20 tournaments, it's just not going to happen. England have moved on and they are too valuable to us in Tests....Look at the amount of test cricket we play, it's mental

Jimmy A is just showing signs now also of picking up a few injuries whereas before the body let you shake them off-it happens when you get older. Broad has also has some injury problems recently.

The constant sniping against Anderson in particular on this forum by certain individuals beggars belief. We have two of the best opening bowlers in world cricket and have done for some time.They have got to be looked after now...have a look at Englands schedule in the next 12 months, and what we have played in the last 12....

[Mtown Don]

Best not to rush Anderson as we need him fully fit for the T20 World Cup. Might be an option to keep him away from Tests and play him in One Dayers?

I think it's been pretty well covered but he hasn't played a T20I since 2009 or an ODI since the World Cup. (Broad also hasn't played since the last WC in either format.)

I would go Elgar, Amla, Du Plessis, De Villiers, Van Zyl, Duminy (last chance), De Kock, Rabada, Abbott (Steyn if fit), Piedt, Morkel. Quite a big shake up but I think it's a more logical batting order

[smilley792]

My SA test xi


Elgar
Cook
Amla
De villiers
Van zyl
Rousow
De kock
Rabada
Abbott
Piedt
Morkel


Unfortunately I'm not sure that for fills the quota. So probably duminy for rousow or van zyl.

[rickjames]

I could see Broad playing T20/ODI again at some point, he's stated he wants to do so and he's at the age where he can still do it. However with Finn, Wood, Willey, Stokes, Woakes, Topley it's fair to say we're not light of seamers...

[smilley792]

De kock and Chris Morris have been added to South Africa's squad for the second test.


So who's opening?

[Aussie In England]

My SA test xi


Elgar
Cook
Amla
De villiers
Van zyl
Rousow
De kock
Rabada
Abbott
Piedt
Morkel


Unfortunately I'm not sure that for fills the quota. So probably duminy for rousow or van zyl.

They have to select four coloured players. Therefore Amla, Piedt, Rabada plus Duminy/Bavuma will play.

Cook wasn't selected.

de Kock will keep wicket though.

[northernboy1987]

They have to select four coloured players. Therefore Amla, Piedt, Rabada plus Duminy/Bavuma will play.

Cook wasn't selected.

de Kock will keep wicket though.

I would hazard a guess that Duminy's experience amongst such a young, transitional side will give him the benefit of the doubt.

[StillNotOut]

No offense meant but that is the craziest thing I've read on here for ages haha, don't waste what time he has left on T20 when we actually have a perfectly respectable T20 bowling attack with Willey et al.

No offence taken. Everyone has their own opinions and I understand where you're coming however, with him being a "senior" player, he does need looking after and this is probably his last major tournament?

Current T20 team does have a great bowling attack but if you would have to choose, I  would have Jimmy over Broad in the squad


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[northernboy1987]

No offence taken. Everyone has their own opinions and I understand where you're coming however, with him being a "senior" player, he does need looking after and this is probably his last major tournament?

Current T20 team does have a great bowling attack but if you would have to choose, I  would have Jimmy over Broad in the squad


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That's fair enough, for me I'd rather see him take 50/60/70 more test wickets than risk his fitness playing ODI or T20I cricket. I think those extra test scalps would bring more to English cricket than (in my opinion of course!) what he would bring to an already decent white ball attack. For what it's worth I think that if he did play white ball cricket again he'd take wickets but, no more than Willey or Plunkett would.

EDIT - I also wouldn't have Broad play white ball cricket again either. I think we have pretty much the best Test new ball partnership in the world and wouldn't want to risk it.

[petehosk]

Current T20 team does have a great bowling attack but if you would have to choose, I  would have Jimmy over Broad in the squad

Broad (when on form) is capable of destroying any batting line-up, as he has proved on a number of occasions! And he certainly seems to have got more accurate and more consistent over the last year or two! Add to that the fact that he could be considered more of an all-rounder with the bat in comparison to Jimmy, and I would pick Broad over Jimmy for the shorter format every time.
Jimmy is a World class Test bowler and would take him as second pick bowler (behind DS) for a World XI, but just not sure that he could offer too much over Broad at the moment...and would give away too much from the batting line-up!

But as others have said, we have some great limited over bowling and all-round options already without risking Jimmy or Broad!

[Vitas Cricket]

Has Jimmy ever been THAT good a white ball bowler?

[Aussie In England]

I would hazard a guess that Duminy's experience amongst such a young, transitional side will give him the benefit of the doubt.

TBH Duminy has been a liability for a long while now. He's averaging a rather poultry 33 and he's s pure batsman. With de Kock slotting in at 7, how can Duminy be a viable option at 6?

If it wasn't for the quota then Roussow would probably slot in at 6.