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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1065 on: January 13, 2016, 03:04:29 PM »

South Africa aren't gonna play 5 batsmen and their keeper and 5 fast bowlers. Makes no sense whatsoever. If you play 5 front line fast bowlers, one will be underused.

That said the bowlers with the best FC record at the Wanderers are Viljoen, Morris, Abbott and Rabada. But would South Africa consider leaving out Morkel, when Steyn and Philander are already missing? Very unlikely.

Duminy will come in the little Bavuma might be forced into opening

Going off what Morris did last game you could aruge he's a pretty good number 7 in his own right and saffas love de cock's biffing. Morkal is apparently 'in the red' for the fitness gurus so is due a rest.  Still, from a England POV.. hope they play Dummy and promote titch up to opening as that should suit the England bowlers down to the group.. rabbit up top and a weak minded bloke at 6.. win win

if SA are producing a seamers wicket.. why not go all out in the hope of smashing through englands not overly good batting line up and aiming for a bowler dominated low scoring game?

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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1066 on: January 13, 2016, 03:13:14 PM »

I think Gary at 3 adds more balance to the line up.
I think it totally unbalances things.

Hales is likely to play anyway.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1067 on: January 13, 2016, 03:22:40 PM »

Compton to open  is surely  Englands the best option.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1068 on: January 13, 2016, 03:26:24 PM »

Can't see it being a prepared (on purpose) seamers wicket. Taking an almighty risk with 2 guys with 700+ test wickets and another with a strike rate under 50, against an attack with a half dozen caps between 3 seamers. More likely a hard bouncy but essentially true deck, which SA hope will exploit Englands supposed weakness at altitude.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1069 on: January 13, 2016, 03:26:51 PM »

Looks like de Kock will move up to open to accommodate Duminy. Imagine if England bat for 120/150 overs, de Kock will be knackered
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1070 on: January 13, 2016, 03:29:08 PM »

Can't see it being a prepared (on purpose) seamers wicket. Taking an almighty risk with 2 guys with 700+ test wickets and another with a strike rate under 50, against an attack with a half dozen caps between 3 seamers. More likely a hard bouncy but essentially true deck, which SA hope will exploit Englands supposed weakness at altitude.

hard and bouncy could expose players like Hales, Moeen and co to the short ball which we know they are awful against .. uuhh oohh

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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1071 on: January 13, 2016, 03:29:55 PM »

Looks like de Kock will move up to open to accommodate Duminy. Imagine if England bat for 120/150 overs, de Kock will be knackered

what a dumb idea... good for England though.. He'll flash and get out anyway so the higher up he is the better for England. Sure let him open
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1072 on: January 13, 2016, 03:32:42 PM »

Going off what Morris did last game you could aruge he's a pretty good number 7 in his own right and saffas love de cock's biffing. Morkal is apparently 'in the red' for the fitness gurus so is due a rest.  Still, from a England POV.. hope they play Dummy and promote titch up to opening as that should suit the England bowlers down to the group.. rabbit up top and a weak minded bloke at 6.. win win

if SA are producing a seamers wicket.. why not go all out in the hope of smashing through englands not overly good batting line up and aiming for a bowler dominated low scoring game?

EEYORE
If you want to win games it's the bowlers that will do that ....let's be honest if it was England 1-0 down we would be preparing wickets for our bowling attack,whether that's spinning ones when we had Swann or seamers with Jimmy A and Broad/Wood.

If that's what SA are going to do great, it's exciting cricket and the batsmen have it too easy these days,they will have to earn their runs.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1073 on: January 13, 2016, 03:34:16 PM »

what a dumb idea... good for England though.. He'll flash and get out anyway so the higher up he is the better for England. Sure let him open
de Kock could be their version of Warner TBH.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1074 on: January 13, 2016, 03:36:26 PM »

de Kock could be their version of Warner TBH.

Warner,  he's just a poor man's Alex Hales  ;)
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1075 on: January 13, 2016, 03:37:54 PM »

de Kock could be their version of Warner TBH.

it would be a very poor version,our bowlers will sort out de cock
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1076 on: January 13, 2016, 03:38:44 PM »

Warner,  he's just a poor man's Alex Hales  ;)
I'm feeling it bro, Warner wishes he averaged mid 20s instead of 50+ ;)
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1077 on: January 13, 2016, 06:00:07 PM »

it would be a very poor version,our bowlers will sort out de cock

Carlo - do you think our bowlers might get de cock out?
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1078 on: January 13, 2016, 06:00:45 PM »

I mean, with de cock going in first, the rest could be shagged!
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1079 on: January 13, 2016, 06:01:34 PM »

Do you think Anderson could deliver the kind of balls de cock wants?
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