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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1650 on: January 24, 2016, 10:32:19 AM »

How are SA going to get steyn and philander back in now as can't drop rabada

Maybe use Elgar as the spinner?
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1651 on: January 24, 2016, 10:32:49 AM »

Ron Weasley caught behind for none trying to leave one.
England have lost 4-34 now and are in danger of having to follow on.

And the commentator has something else on his mind
"Chris Woakes can handle the willy... Willow I should say."
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1652 on: January 24, 2016, 10:32:54 AM »

Taylor doesn't have the technical ability for Test cricket. Too many moving parts and too many wild shots.

Bairstow, his wicketkeeping is poor, should bat at 5 with a proper keeper 7.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1653 on: January 24, 2016, 10:35:10 AM »

Hmmmmmmmm, looks like we may be paying the price for an insipid bowling performance and conservative selection of our attack.

Rabada is young, quick, erratic, occasionally expensive - but he takes wickets. We have one of those sitting on the bench.

I hope this text series doesn't end like a wet fart for us.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1654 on: January 24, 2016, 10:35:45 AM »

I was reading somewhere online that Rabada should be dropped because he's too expensive...well he takes wickets. His economy will improve as he gets more experienced. And when he bowls with Steyn and Philander. At 20 years old he's probably the best prospect(fast bowler) in world cricket.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1655 on: January 24, 2016, 10:48:00 AM »

If anyone gets dropped i think XI would be

Cook
Hales/Lees/Milan
Ansari
Root
Stokes
Taylor
Bairstow
Ali
Broad/Wood (if Finn not fit)
Anderson / Broad (if wood plays)
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1656 on: January 24, 2016, 10:55:46 AM »

Amusingly seen a few tweets calling for people's heads.


Bairstow being one of the because he's "not getting runs to cover his poor glove work"

Err he's failed once and still averages 87 in this series??? We're do this people come from!!


Hales, and Taylor are the two most at risk(Bairstow to five and pick a specialist keeper?? Don't see point in buttler coming back in till he's shown red ball form)

Compton got a nice 85 early in but has he done much since? Bell could aim for a 1000 runs in first month and reclaim his place.......
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1657 on: January 24, 2016, 11:05:50 AM »

Good to see the youngster rabada do well. Interesting to hear that he wants to play county cricket yet all the counties have filled their overseas. Think a few of them might be making some room.
Let's see if he's still up for county cricket once he becomes an IPL millionaire. Great attitude from the kid so far, let's hope the money doesn't spoil it
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1658 on: January 24, 2016, 11:06:55 AM »

Hales, and Taylor are the two most at risk(Bairstow to five and pick a specialist keeper?? Don't see point in buttler coming back in till he's shown red ball form)

There arent any real alternatives than these two for the gloves (sadly)
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1659 on: January 24, 2016, 11:11:08 AM »

Amusingly seen a few tweets calling for people's heads.


Bairstow being one of the because he's "not getting runs to cover his poor glove work"

Err he's failed once and still averages 87 in this series??? We're do this people come from!!


Hales, and Taylor are the two most at risk(Bairstow to five and pick a specialist keeper?? Don't see point in buttler coming back in till he's shown red ball form)

Compton got a nice 85 early in but has he done much since? Bell could aim for a 1000 runs in first month and reclaim his place.......
I honestly dont think butlers glove work is much better than bairstows if at all. Have people forgotton Ansari? Seeing as he was just injured to lose his place shouldnt he deserve a shot now?

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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1660 on: January 24, 2016, 11:14:25 AM »

There arent any real alternatives than these two for the gloves (sadly)

There must be an English keeper who's a decent out and out gloveman.
The batting is arguably strong enough that as long as they know which end of the bat to hold you could get them into the side? You could argue a decent gloveman would save youa few runs anyway so it would balance itself out.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1661 on: January 24, 2016, 11:16:18 AM »

I honestly dont think butlers glove work is much better than bairstows if at all. Have people forgotton Ansari? Seeing as he was just injured to lose his place shouldnt he deserve a shot now?

Ansari seemed a stop gap selection for me to get an extra spinner who could bat into the squad really.

Presume he's still injured as well given hes isnt touring with the lions.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1662 on: January 24, 2016, 11:18:53 AM »

I honestly dont think butlers glove work is much better than bairstows if at all. Have people forgotton Ansari? Seeing as he was just injured to lose his place shouldnt he deserve a shot now?

This! In my opinion Bairstow is the better keeper of the two, and without doubt is the better red ball batsman too.
Jos Butler will be a white ball superstar, but I don't see him as a teat match player right now. If he wants his place back I think he needs a good season of championship cricket to develop his glovework and red ball cricket in general. If he isn't going to play in the teat side in the English summer, let him get some cricket under his belt. That would be more beneficial than having him carry the drinks
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1663 on: January 24, 2016, 11:27:05 AM »

Taylor's shot selection was shocking, he wafted at three head high balls that were at least a foot outside off trying to pull them!!!, wtf, either leave alone or cut them surely, it would only take a half decent connection to clear the cordon if he's going to play that delivery at all.
Root caught behind in over 60% of his dismissals, for me his right arm is tucked in too tight to his hip, he needs to amend this, both forearms should be pointing back at the bowler to correct any loop in his back swing, just my 2p.
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Re: South Africa vs England
« Reply #1664 on: January 24, 2016, 11:34:52 AM »

Taylor's had a shocker. The other wickets to fall this morning were all decent deliveries. Definitely looking like a good toss to win. Looking harder and harder to bat on that surface. Unless there are more Stokes heroics I can't see England getting anything from this match.
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