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Young keeper trying on the gloves
« on: December 31, 2015, 11:08:57 PM »

I am keen on keeping next season as I bat already but would like to add another element in my game. My junior club team is short on keepers and by the end of the winter I hope to be the reserve keeper for my county squad as we only have one keeper so I am going to train during the winter to improve on keeping but I have no clue on keeping. So im wondering what drills to do, any tips, gloves and pad tips (short cuff, long cuff, octopus palm, etc) and pretty much anything else that can be useful.

Cheers  :D
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Re: Young keeper trying on the gloves
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2015, 11:16:58 PM »

As a very part time stopper I'm probably not the most qualified to give tips, but I will anyway!

Clear your mind between balls, each delivery is a potential chance.
Watch the ball.
Stay low.
Move your feet - it's less energy consuming & more successful than diving.
Don't stand up thinking you're billy big bollox! You'll cost the team more in byes and missed chances from standing too close than anything else.
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Re: Young keeper trying on the gloves
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2015, 11:20:16 PM »

As a very part time stopper I'm probably not the most qualified to give tips, but I will anyway!

Clear your mind between balls, each delivery is a potential chance.
Watch the ball.
Stay low.
Move your feet - it's less energy consuming & more successful than diving.
Don't stand up thinking you're billy big bollox! You'll cost the team more in byes and missed chances from standing too close than anything else.

Haha cheers mate. Hate it when keepers stand up for no reason  >:( winds me up no end! I will start training soon and once I get a bit better, Paul Nixon coaches in a centre not too far from me so I will probably get a few sessions with him as well.
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Re: Young keeper trying on the gloves
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2015, 11:32:31 PM »

If youre new then I would reccomend long cuffed gloves as you're more likely to cop one on the wrist
*however* it comes down to personal preference in the end

Again like Cam I'm only a very part time, only started keeping last year whilst captaining my club age group development squad, when I open the bowling for our full strength age group and lower senior teams
It's very different and enjoyable, even if I wasn't that great


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Re: Young keeper trying on the gloves
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2015, 11:36:03 PM »

If youre new then I would reccomend long cuffed gloves as you're more likely to cop one on the wrist
*however* it comes down to personal preference in the end

Again like Cam I'm only a very part time, only started keeping last year whilst captaining my club age group development squad, when I open the bowling for our full strength age group and lower senior teams
It's very different and enjoyable, even if I wasn't that great


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I am aiming towards getting the long cuffed gloves because, as you said, more protection. Will probably go kookaburra just as they are my sponsors.
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Re: Young keeper trying on the gloves
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2015, 11:37:06 PM »

Another tip.
Use your hands to stop the ball, not your shins!
With this in mind (and assuming you plan to take up keeping full time) cheap pads but decent gloves.
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Re: Young keeper trying on the gloves
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2015, 11:38:38 PM »

Another tip.
Use your hands to stop the ball, not your shins!
With this in mind (and assuming you plan to take up keeping full time) cheap pads but decent gloves.

I'll be getting the kook pro pads as they are £30 for me anyways.
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Re: Young keeper trying on the gloves
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2015, 11:44:08 PM »

Not a keeper but was watching  Healey discuss keeping on Sky Sports earlier this week.

One point he stressed on was watching the ball and not the batsman


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Re: Young keeper trying on the gloves
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2016, 12:35:09 AM »

https://youtu.be/vqUP6AUxu3A nixon drills

And here's healy talking on sky sports
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Re: Young keeper trying on the gloves
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2016, 01:32:12 AM »

Keep your thumbs as far apart as possible, stay low and come up with the ball. Just keep your head in line and you'll catch everything.
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Re: Young keeper trying on the gloves
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2016, 05:25:41 PM »

Speak to your county coach and find a good keeping coach to show you the basics. Better to start doing the right stuff than learn bad habits.

Main tip I would say is catch a hell of a lot of balls and make sure you have fun.
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Re: Young keeper trying on the gloves
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2016, 01:17:58 PM »

Hi Centurion,

Ive been keeping for the best part of 15 years and kept at county 2nd XI level. Although this certainly doesn't qualify me as an expert and i'm sure there are far more qualified people on here,  here's my two penneth. I wont go into how to stand etc as there are a million youtube videos on that but I'll just add a few points to hopefully help you out.

Extreme basics but some of the most important elements to keeping (often paid lip service to but you would be amazed how many keepers, new and old, dont do the following)
- Eyes level
- Relaxed hands
- Come up with the ball
- Let the ball come to you

Next step - your set up.
- Your springs/Shock absorbers - Elbows, Knees, Hips and believe it or not ankles. Ensure they are all relaxed to take the energy out of the ball. Far too many keepers are rigid, this causes them to lean back when taking the ball. Off balance resulting in your head moving - keep your head as still as possible.
- Always be leaning into the ball. If you look at any decent keeper, apart from the hands the furthest thing forward will be their head.
- 90% arm extension, do not lock your arms straight. Take the ball well in front of you using your elbow shock absorbers to take the ball cleanly. Taking the ball too close to the body will A) prevent your shock absorbers from working B) create a snatching 'take' and C) prevent you from adapting if there is any ABS (after bat swing)

Feet
- Probably the most neglected part of Wicketkeeping but arguably as important as hands. All good wicketkeepers (and batsman) have excellent footwork whether stood up or stood back. Diving should be the last resort so get practising side to side drills. A good one which I like to do is two cones approx 3 meters apart with a tennis ball on the top of each and one in your hand. For 2 mins straight and as quick as you can be on your toes side stepping to each and replacing the ball on top with the one in your hand. 2 mins doesnt sound a lot but if your posture is right (head as still as possible, leaning slightly forward) and you do it a few times you will start to feel it in the quads, calves and hammys. It also helps hand/eye coordination by ensuring your hands are doing their job before you start moving ( a good drill for stumpings etc, no point moving until you have taken the ball cleanly)

Basic Habits
- ALWAYS take the ball to the stumps if you are within reach - although dont always take the bails off - umpires have a sense of humour failure on that one.
- ALWAYS Want the ball, whenever an outfielder collects the ball, demand it to be thrown in. This not only keeps energies high but lets the batting team know your team mean business.
- NEVER GO QUIET. Youre the fielding general, your energy should be high for every ball. If the keeper is quiet, the team is quiet.

Mental side.
- Whilst learning (and indeed at any point in your keeping career) there is always a chance you may miss a stumping or drop one - You have to have the ability to put this to the back of your mind and concentrate on the next ball. This is where keeping is unique, you cant be sent to ride the boundary if youre not seeing it well at slip or you cant be taken off cos youre bowling a bad spell. Keeping has nowhere to hide, although saying that, it is the best place to be.
- Learn how to switch off between balls. If a batsman bats out the entire innings people commend him for his powers of concentration, the keeper has to do this every game. As soon as you have passed the ball to a fielder, completely switch off. As soon as the bowler has it in his hands switch back on. It is important to have an 'on button' too. Have a movement that through muscle memory switches you on. I take two steps forwards and touch both gloves before going into my stance then power position. Not saying you should do the same, but find your cue!

Lastly but by far the most important....Enjoy it! You will never be as good as you can be if you dont have a smile on your face.

Theres a few basics for you, if you want any more technical questions answering, feel free to send me a direct message.

Hope this helps

Karlo


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Re: Young keeper trying on the gloves
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2016, 04:30:09 PM »

@karlo84 cheers mate! Just what I needed :)


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Re: Young keeper trying on the gloves
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2016, 05:35:44 PM »

Great post from Karlo. Especially the bit about enjoying it! Keepers are always in the game, so stay switched on as much as possible and don't allow any missed chances to affect you. When it's gone, it's gone - only the next ball counts, not the last!
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Re: Young keeper trying on the gloves
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2016, 05:51:56 PM »

Yeah a great post. Switching off is my next challenge this season. Managed to do it when batting by counting trees but might not work if I want to gee up the fielders etc. Any tips?

Oh one other thing I found really helped, although it isn't for everyone, is to film yourself at nets. I learn so much by watching myself, I think I'm doing one thing with my feet, hands etc and I'm not at all, even if it is a small thing.
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