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I am expecting a follow-on for Pakistan.

easy there, tiger

[ProCricketer1982]

I am expecting a follow-on for Pakistan.

Me too. Curator has been asked to produce a seamer and England aren't great at batting as today proves but they'll back Pakistan batsmen to fold even cheaper

[Neon Cricket]

I'm certain we'll have a 1st innings lead, but no chance will we bowl Pakistan out for 128 - love the optimism but it's not happening

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I'm certain we'll have a 1st innings lead, but no chance will we bowl Pakistan out for 128 - love the optimism but it's not happening

Even if Pak fold for 50, Cook will never have them follow on.

[InternalTraining]

England have an enviable batting depth. They were 110 for 5 at one point.

Dropped catches in the slips...no balls...Pakistan can't afford that against England. I feel for Amir.

[Seniorplayer]

England have an enviable batting depth. They were 110 for 5 at one point.

Dropped catches in the slips...no balls...Pakistan can't afford that against England. I feel for Amir.

They do have batting in depth but why when your 2-1 up and batting first  bat as if it's a one dayer.

[edge]

so where do you bat Moeen when Stokes is back in the team?

I'd go Bairstow 6 - Mo 7 - Stokes 8

(No Swearing Please) no, if Stokes is playing he bats at 6, end of story. So many reasons why he needs to be there ahead of YJB and Moeen. Not to mention that both played shocking shots early today and were reprieved by no balls/drops.

[Neon Cricket]

(No Swearing Please) no, if Stokes is playing he bats at 6, end of story. So many reasons why he needs to be there ahead of YJB and Moeen. Not to mention that both played shocking shots early today and were reprieved by no balls/drops.

Stokes ahead of Bairstow?? No chance, Bairstow is in the form of his life!

[edge]

Stokes ahead of Bairstow?? No chance, Bairstow is in the form of his life!

He is, and I still don't think he's quite good enough to be a genuine top 6 bat, sorry! There was a experiment with batting Stokes at 7/8 for a while, it didn't work. Especially as Bairstow is the keeper, for me he bats 7 whenever we have a genuine allrounder available.

[ElPerro]

He is, and I still don't think he's quite good enough to be a genuine top 6 bat, sorry! There was a experiment with batting Stokes at 7/8 for a while, it didn't work. Especially as Bairstow is the keeper, for me he bats 7 whenever we have a genuine allrounder available.

Playing devils advocate you could say that batting moeen at 8 hasn't worked out look at how he's gone since he's been promoted a spot he plays a completely different game

As long as all three are there England are in good order but I'd bat Bairstow ahead of him and moeen

[edge]

Moeen batted quite nicely in the Ashes last year at 8? Also his batting is basically a distraction, he's selected as the spinner first and foremost. 

[ProCricketer1982]

(No Swearing Please) no, if Stokes is playing he bats at 6, end of story. So many reasons why he needs to be there ahead of YJB and Moeen. Not to mention that both played shocking shots early today and were reprieved by no balls/drops.

Stokes a test match number six... Haha good joke. He's a hitter and that belongs at 7/8

[northernboy1987]

Stokes a test match number six... Haha good joke. He's a hitter and that belongs at 7/8

Might be true but batting at 6 obviously does his confidence some good, averages far more at 6 than 7/8 though, over 40 batting at 6 and about 22 at 7/8 so I don't think Bayliss/Cook would consider moving him.

[smilley792]

Stokes a test match number six... Haha good joke. He's a hitter and that belongs at 7/8

He should bat at 5. Definately a test match number 5.........

[roco]

We are going to the sub continent in the winter so need to get 2 spinners in

but either way I don't think moeen is a first choice spinner but his batting has shown promise so for me deserves a run as a batsmen

id have

cook
hales
rooooooooooooooot
borthwick
moeen
stokes
bairstow (can swop with stokes)
Rashid (or any spinner worthy as don't know many round county scene)
woakes
broad/finn
Anderson

id have that in all conditions as even in asia we seem to rely on our seamers so this gives us enough bowling on any surface with moeen as 2nd spinner borthwick as 3rd and root as 4th but with 4 seamers