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[felix]

I don't see that anybody's said the shrey wouldn't pass the BSI test.  To paraphrase earlier posts, the 1998 standard for absolute impact protection of the shell (effectively unchanged by the 2013 standard) set a pretty low bar which all current helmets pass by a long way. The results show (to be expected though given their different construction methods) that the impact protection of Masuri VS and Ayrtek is quite a bit better than shrey. If you're going to face 90 mph bowling this could be critical to you. The evidence here shows, worryingly, that shrey quality control standards are poor and possibly some of the damage shown in these pictures could even compromise the shell's impact protection results - whether they'd fail the BSI test who knows? That said, clearly not all shreys have these issues - my Masterclass Air doesn't and of those helmets available at the time it was, for me, the best for comfort and visibility - so the quality let out of the factory seems to be very variable. I think one of the lessons here is that, to anyone thinking of getting a shrey, check it carefully before you accept it.

[alexhilly1492]

Something that hasn't been mentioned at all so far is what packaging is inside the box? Could the shreys have been damaged in transit somehow where as the masuri is better protected?

This coming form someone who uses an old masuri but is looking at a new lid next season!

[Northern monkey]

I'm not saying it happens, but if one were to put a product up for testing then I imagine it is possible to hand pick the samples so passing and manufacturing quality aren't necessarily the same thing. All standards also tend to set a pretty low requirements as they are a balance of ensuring safety/ standards but not setting requirements too high so as to place barriers to entering a market. I also wouldn't necessarily expect a governing body to be in touch with every fine detail nor pros be a good guide as to what is safe in or a good product in any sport or area. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't assume a Standard to be the be all and end all and not all products meeting a Standard may be equal. All I know is this forum gave me some visual checks when buying a Shrey and it wasn't up to scratch.

As an aside, I wonder what the test ball mass and speed is to work out impact force of the test scenario without a helmet. How low is the 250g pass rate for example?

You don't want to be hit in the head without a helmet
One of the worst I've seen, was a ball clipping the side of a batters head
The seam did some horrendous damage to the batters head.
And that wasn't a direct hit

Buy the best you can afford, with the highest quality and safety standards possible.

[edge]

Testing is a 5.2oz ball of 73mm diameter at 67mph from short range I believe, meant to be the equivalent of an 80mph bouncer from the hand. To put 250g in perspective, 120g is enough to give a pretty good concussion if I remember right.

As others have said, the Shrey test lids definitely won't have had cracks in them! So if you've got one that's aok, I'm sure it's up to the job. What make me uneasy is how much the cracks will affect the safety, you don't know.

[avkrish]

I have received mine yesterday from PDC, will check and post my feedback asap.

[GoodLeave]

Something that hasn't been mentioned at all so far is what packaging is inside the box? Could the shreys have been damaged in transit somehow where as the masuri is better protected?

This coming form someone who uses an old masuri but is looking at a new lid next season!

Good point. For Shrey, mine just came in the box with the swoppa'a in a small plastic bag. Can't remember whether the helmet was in the cloth/mesh bag or not when it was unboxed but I doubt it would offer any protection to the helmet at all even if it was in the bag.

[Vitas Cricket]

A few questions, after reading most of the posts on this topic:

1. Did or did not Shrey pass the new British Standards test? That is what they claim.
2. Does it mean that the body which passed these helmets under the new British Safety standards made some sort of compromise and passed a sub-standard product?
3. If there are safety issues with these helmets, how come ECB have permitted use of these helmets in the UK?
4. Does it mean that the professionals who use these helmets are compromising their safety for whatever extra they are receiving from this manufacturer? They should be, if we go by the posts on this topic so far.

There are a few on the Forum who know or claim to know professional players at different levels & and other decision makers. Perhaps they can shed some light on this?

Perhaps this would be of interest too:

https://www.ecb.co.uk/concussion-in-cricket/helmets

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The testing is not ongoing. Once you have a model that passes it is not randomly checked in the way an athlete can be randomly selected for drug testing for example. Masuri voluntarily send their helmets to be batch tested every few weeks. In theory if I wanted to I could produce a helmet to pass the test, once certified I could then choose to make the helmet out of paper mache, I'm sure at some point I would be caught but hopefully you see my point?

Pros shouldn't be relied on as a guide to what's safe and what isn't.




@alexhilly1492 shrey and masuri are both shipped in similar cardboard boxes, very little difference in protection levels during shipping.

@Number4 my statement was every shrey I have seen, which is nearly 30 now.

[Cow_corner]

Had nets today, had a look at a couple of Shrey helmets. Very ropey quality, I'll stick with Masuri thanks.

[Number4]

@Vitas Cricket What I was trying to determine Jake was it all models or only certain models

[Vitas Cricket]

@Vitas Cricket What I was trying to determine Jake was it all models or only certain models

From what I've seen it's been across steel and ti grilles, not familiar with the full range and how many models there are though

[avkrish]

Just gave my newly received (can't say it is of a recent batch, label says batch 03/2015 - bought from PDC on offer at GBP 117/- less UK VAT, received last Saturday) Master Class Air Titanium helmet a reasonably thorough check. Could not find anything comparable to the photos in the original or subsequent posts and no stickers floating around in the box. Perhaps got lucky or got one from a batch that did not have the reported issues.

[Cow_corner]

There has to be a fairly serious reason why Masuri would shift production from a seriously low cost country back to U.K.

[avkrish]

There has to be a fairly serious reason why Masuri would shift production from a seriously low cost country back to U.K.

There could be, but I doubt someone in the know will be willing to provide reliable information.

[Vitas Cricket]

Only a reasonably basic picture so far, actual images of products will follow as they arrive in stock, but heres the Masuri alternative i think many of those considering Shrey will appreciate.

[Cow_corner]

There could be, but I doubt someone in the know will be willing to provide reliable information.

Quality and safety, who turns down a cheap job well done?