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[ppccopener]

BAirstow has said on many occasions, having the gloves helps his batting. It would be counter productive to take them away from him.

Don't upset the guy making the runs!!


As for buttler, he is in the squad yes, but mainly as a backup wicket keeper. Weather there was ever a discussion involving him being a batsmen only, we won't know but at the beginning of the tour he was definately behind both ballance and duckett in the middle order pecking order.
Due to the constraints of the tour, has he really been able to prove otherwise?

true, he hasn't

im just trying to think batting wise if we don't recall Balance and do leave out Duckett how it works.

are you saying bring Balance back in rather than bring in Butler who has not played any games?

[smilley792]

I'm saying England have dug themselves in a hole not taking enough batting cover. 2 opening newbies, and an out of form ballance should not have been part of there 6 people that only bat.

You can only give it to who is confident. Baylis says no one is work king harder in the nets than duckett. This has to include ballance and buttler.

So keep ducket but move him lower. Blood him at 7 and move everyone else up one.



Anyone else notice we have a team of openers.

Cook
Hameed
Root
Duckett
Ali

Entire top five have opened for England in tests and it is there preferred position(or was in Roots case) is it any wonder. They struggle against spin when they arrive at the crease?

[six and out]

I'm saying England have dug themselves in a hole not taking enough batting cover. 2 opening newbies, and an out of form ballance should not have been part of there 6 people that only bat.

You can only give it to who is confident. Baylis says no one is work king harder in the nets than duckett. This has to include ballance and buttler.

So keep ducket but move him lower. Blood him at 7 and move everyone else up one.



Anyone else notice we have a team of openers.

Cook
Hameed
Root
Duckett
Ali

Entire top five have opened for England in tests and it is there preferred position(or was in Roots case) is it any wonder. They struggle against spin when they arrive at the crease?

Completely agree that we have dug ourselves this hole by not taking enough batters however i don't think moving Duckett to 7 will do him any good - he will still walk out to face Ashwin and what are you telling the lad that he has gone from 1 to 4 to 7 in the space of 5 tests.

With once again it is a case of you are in the best form when you are out of the team!

[Bats_Entertainment]

Middle-order batsman are going to have to start showing some bottle whatever numbers they bat at.

[procricket]

Sorry but Duckett is not good enough at the minute, I think Woakes would score as many as him..

Yes he needs to be given a chance in better conditions before writing him off but I have not seen anything others cant offer.

Big difference from whacking division 2 county bowlers on good decks to playing the best spinners in the world..

Not saying he can't ever but saying he has been exposed...

I support England and support Duckett but as I said I think Woakes would score as many at the minute.

[six and out]

Get Harry in!

https://twitter.com/tmsproducer/status/800743409891741697

[Bats_Entertainment]

And so "Duckett must play" becomes "Duckett must go"...

[procricket]

And so "Duckett must play" becomes "Duckett must go"...

Never said he should stay or go I'm just a fan I just think he has found the going tough and as I have said I think woakes would score as many as him so I suspect why pick him.



For me he should be working hard it playing for England after all and I hope he plays and does well as every player who dons the shirt.

But no I do not think he is good enough at the minute.

[Manormanic]

mid term Duckett must play - he has potentially world class talent.

but he should only play the next test if it is going to aid his long term development.  I wonder at the moment if the opposite is the case.

[Bats_Entertainment]

mid term Duckett must play - he has potentially world class talent.

but he should only play the next test if it is going to aid his long term development.  I wonder at the moment if the opposite is the case.

I think it was James Taylor that I heard say the transition in 80% mental.

[ppccopener]

this is tricky is'nt it?  young player, you want to stick with him he has hardly had a chance is very testing conditions. Do we go back to Ballance if he does not play?    hmmmm not sure that would be right

the way ive worked out the Mohali test is Ansari is left out and broad is not fit.

so woakes in and probably Ball, there's no one else to drop far as I can see unless it's Duckett for Butler, everyone moves up a place and Butler slots in lower down.

Butler gives a right handed option, might counter attack and put pressure on the bowlers. He might also do nothing as he hasn't played for ages and has no track record in tests of scoring against decent spin....


trying to think of another option available without dropping the youngster and still playing 2 spinners.

I don't think there is one.

[Stuey]

I can't see what bringing ballance in will achieve. I'd like to see Buttler get another crack, but not sure where he fits in and hasn't played for months. I think you have to be fair to Duckett and give him time to turn things around, stick with him.

[Seniorplayer]

Problem is though against Ashwin Ducett looks out of his depth playing  him again in this  series  won't help his development

[ppccopener]

The guardian have Butler in and Duckett missing out in the next test.
Think thats the way we will go.Butler had problems with spin when he got dropped as well the same as Duckett now.
You have to presume he is going to have licence to thump it lower down the order...

[FattusCattus]

Get Harry in!

https://twitter.com/tmsproducer/status/800743409891741697

God there are some shites on twitter!!