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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #675 on: November 22, 2016, 05:08:00 PM »

Ok - so thinking about this logically - 2nd Test line up was Cook, Hameed, Root, Duckett, Ali, Stokes, Bairstow, Rashid, Ansari, Broad, Anderson.

Let's assume that Cook, Hameed, Root, Ali, Stokes, Bairstow, Rashid and Anderson are in for the 3rd Test.
That leaves 3 unknowns which we should take one at a time to address!

1. Broad - would be playing but has issues with his foot. Obvious replacement if he is fit again is likely to be Woakes.
2. Duckett - The shot he played in the last innings does seem to suggest that he has mental issues. He would have normally put a bad ball like that away 99% of the time in his sleep! So if the Management think he is ok to bat still, then leave him in as the wicket will (supposedly) play better for batsmen in the next Test? But if they are worried about Duckett's mental state then they may pull him - replacement? Probably Buttler (maybe at 4, maybe slightly lower down the order)
3. Ansari - decent player who hasn't come alive in any match yet. Unlikely to play in the 3rd Test if the wicket is not expected to require 3 spinners! So if they decide that Rashid and Ali are enough, with the option of Root taking a few overs if required, then Ansari will be the one rested! Therefore replacement is likely to be pace bowler - hopefully Ball (please not Finn until he shows genuine improvement again) as Ball has shown his quality already in Bangladesh!

I can see Broad and Ansari definitely being rested! No opinion on Duckett as I have no clue as to his frame of mind currently but would hope that the Management know whether he is mentally fit enough or not. So I think either:

Cook, Hameed, Root
Duckett, Ali, Stokes, Bairstow,
Woakes, Rashid, Ball, Anderson.

Or if Duckett is left out:

Cook, Hameed, Root,
Bairstow, Ali, Stokes, Buttler,
Woakes, Rashid, Ball, Anderson

Bairstow could bat 4 as there is always the option of Buttler taking the gloves if Bairstow goes big with the bat!! ;)
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #676 on: November 23, 2016, 07:48:32 AM »

Buttler, Woakes and Finn will come in
Broad, Duckett and Ansari will go out
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #677 on: November 23, 2016, 09:07:25 AM »

Finn!!!! What the f*ck has Ball done - wee'd in Trevor's Frapuccino?
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #678 on: November 23, 2016, 09:12:10 AM »

I can't believe Finn will play ahead of Ball in this match, presuming we don't need 3 spinners

it's got to be ball surely  :)   love Steve Finn but he hasn't bowled well for a while.

ive seen Ball bowl live and he has got some wheels and gets decent bounce
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #679 on: November 23, 2016, 01:26:04 PM »

Indian stumper Saha is out with a leg injury and has been replaced by Parthiv Patel. Who rather remarkably Is still only 31 years old. First Test in 8 years.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #680 on: November 23, 2016, 03:03:56 PM »

Finns in because they are expecting a track with bounce and carry
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #681 on: November 23, 2016, 03:26:45 PM »

they needed the extra height of Finn over Ball, that whole inch will make all the difference, not their skills or Finns ability to bowl absolute dross...
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #682 on: November 23, 2016, 03:38:16 PM »

UNBELIEVABLE.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #683 on: November 23, 2016, 03:47:09 PM »

Quite.  One was the best seamer in England last year.  The other was the fourth best seamer in Middlesex.

Go figure.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #684 on: November 23, 2016, 04:05:22 PM »

Finns in because they are expecting a track with bounce and carry

Mohali is not the same anymore. Last test against SA, spinners dominated big time.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #685 on: November 23, 2016, 04:45:07 PM »

Finns in because they are expecting a track with bounce and carry

Shastri mentioned its too early in the season for pace and bounce, more likely to be on the slower side
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #686 on: November 23, 2016, 05:11:18 PM »

if all that is correct, and even if the wicket should help seamers, there's nothing stopping India shaving any remaining grass off,  we could be back to three spinners and just Woakes back for Broad.

and Butler replacing Duckett.

which might mean a game for Batty?
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #687 on: November 23, 2016, 06:55:03 PM »

Steven Finn's international career needs to be put out of its' misery. Not sure he was even the fourth best seamer in Middlesex last year, I'd rather have James Fuller!
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #688 on: November 23, 2016, 08:03:20 PM »

Steven Finn's international career needs to be put out of its' misery. Not sure he was even the fourth best seamer in Middlesex last year, I'd rather have James Fuller!

1. Roland-Jones
2. Murtagh
3. Harris
4. Franklin
5. Fuller
6. Podmore
7. Helm
8. Finn

Bit mean?   :D
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #689 on: November 24, 2016, 02:57:29 PM »

After the  2nd innings  england blockathon failed hot off the  press from the england camp for the 3rd test :
josh Buttler license to thrill
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