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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #990 on: December 01, 2016, 06:59:26 PM »

Moving Cook to three is sensible, you could have root at three and cook at 4 too.
Fingers crossed Jennings does well, he has a very good technique to the quicks. No idea about spin though

Cook is a proven opening bat that's were he needs to be leave the middle order to the shot makers.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #991 on: December 01, 2016, 07:16:18 PM »

Cook is a proven opening bat that's were he needs to be leave the middle order to the shot makers.


Yes, he's done okay opening the innings. He has 10,307 runs at an average of 46.22 with 51 50's and 28 100's.
Cook also has a very decent record batting at 3. He has 578 runs at an average of 52.55 with 2 50's and 2 100's.

His strike rate is roughly the same in both these positions, at around 46.

However, statistically he should bat at 7 as he hasn't ever been dismissed batting here in Tests, and has a strike rate of just under 57!
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #992 on: December 01, 2016, 07:23:57 PM »


Yes, he's done okay opening the innings. He has 10,307 runs at an average of 46.22 with 51 50's and 28 100's.
Cook also has a very decent record batting at 3. He has 578 runs at an average of 52.55 with 2 50's and 2 100's.

His strike rate is roughly the same in both these positions, at around 46.

However, statistically he should bat at 7 as he hasn't ever been dismissed batting here in Tests, and has a strike rate of just under 57!

Awesome stats WW

Well thats that sorted, Woakes to open Cookie slips down with a bit of trundle throw in 'genuine allrounder'
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #993 on: December 01, 2016, 07:28:10 PM »

Awesome stats WW

Well thats that sorted, Woakes to open Cookie slips down with a bit of trundle throw in 'genuine allrounder'

With the ball Cook averages 7, with an economy of 2.33 and a strike rate of 18.
He'd run through batting orders for fun!
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #994 on: December 01, 2016, 07:55:49 PM »

When did Lara and Sachin open in test cricket?

They did not. the point was - changing batting position of batters who have batted in particular spot for a very very long time has not worked in past.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #995 on: December 01, 2016, 08:03:58 PM »

Feels vetry similar to the gerrard lampard thing. Shoe horn everyone in.

The reality is the kid hast played yet. We have not got a great record of unearthing openners in test cricket right now. I would just wait see and dont have sich high expectations. As mentioned its a tough ask for the most talented cricketer.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #996 on: December 01, 2016, 08:15:21 PM »

If Jennings does show he is good enough then I think Hameed has showed the versatility(admittedly only in a few innings) to bat at 3 . Probably wouldn't be a popular decision though for the reason others have already stated.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #997 on: December 01, 2016, 08:30:40 PM »

God forbid an opener could bat at three. I mean it has never worked before, other than when cook was 3, or Root at 3 or Michael Vaughan at 3 or Mark Butcher at 3.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #998 on: December 01, 2016, 08:36:01 PM »

God forbid an opener could bat at three. I mean it has never worked before, other than when cook was 3, or Root at 3 or Michael Vaughan at 3 or Mark Butcher at 3.

Did Cook bat at 3? I don't remember!
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #999 on: December 01, 2016, 08:44:09 PM »


Yes, he's done okay opening the innings. He has 10,307 runs at an average of 46.22 with 51 50's and 28 100's.
Cook also has a very decent record batting at 3. He has 578 runs at an average of 52.55 with 2 50's and 2 100's.

His strike rate is roughly the same in both these positions, at around 46.

However, statistically he should bat at 7 as he hasn't ever been dismissed batting here in Tests, and has a strike rate of just under 57!
Seem to recall him hitting sixes batting at seven
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1000 on: December 01, 2016, 09:02:54 PM »

So... 7. Cook 8. Buttler 9. Billings...
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1001 on: December 01, 2016, 09:49:24 PM »

Did Cook bat at 3? I don't remember!

Cook also has a very decent record batting at 3. He has 578 runs at an average of 52.55 with 2 50's and 2 100's.

His strike rate is roughly  46.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1002 on: December 02, 2016, 10:52:46 AM »

If Jennings does perform well enough then that would be a very nice, but surprising and unexpected problem to have!
But back on the subject of the next Test, I would look at team similar to...

Cook
Jennings
Root
Ali
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes
Rashid
Ball
Anderson
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Next test Squad for the 3RD Test against India
« Reply #1003 on: December 02, 2016, 07:26:31 PM »

1.Cook
2. Jennings
3. Root
4. Ali
5 Stokes
6 Bairstow
7 Jos Butler
8  Liam Dawson
9   Adil Rashid
10. Chris woakes   
11. Jimmy Anderson

Probably wont happen , what would your squad be ?

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1004 on: December 02, 2016, 08:37:53 PM »

For me, Ali is still too high at 4, and 3 spinners isn;t really working for us - I would prefer:

1.Cook
2. Duckett
3. Jennings
4. Root
5. Bairstow
6. Stokes
7. Jos Butler
8. Ali
9. Rashid
10. Ball   
11. Anderson

Get Duckett in against the seamers as soon as possible, give Woakes a rest for this one and Jimmy for the next (they're pretty much interchangeable as non-wicket taking, holding bowlers), Ball must be itching for a go, and Rooty can't be any worse as the 3rd spinner, bowling perhaps 12 overs a day.
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