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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1110 on: December 08, 2016, 04:19:05 PM »

Moeen's a luxury. If we pick the best spinner it's not Moeen. I'd have Buttler over Moeen everyday of the week and twice on a Sunday. No need to have Moeen batting at 7 if he's a genuine batsman

You are not a big fan are you... Personally I wouldn't bat him in the top 5. Look where gilchrist batted and Moen could have a similar impact but rather than keep Moen bowls his spin...
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1111 on: December 08, 2016, 04:23:04 PM »

You are not a big fan are you... Personally I wouldn't bat him in the top 5. Look where gilchrist batted and Moen could have a similar impact but rather than keep Moen bowls his spin...
Moeen's feasted on the terrible Sri Lankan attack to boost those stats #7. Buttler at #7 can single handily win matches(I'm not biased to Buttler at all...cough cough Somerset lad  :D).

If Moeen is a front line batsman he has to bat in the top 5. Otherwise he carries the water.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1112 on: December 08, 2016, 04:27:50 PM »

Bairstow?
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1113 on: December 08, 2016, 04:29:50 PM »

why does a front line batsmen have to bat in top 5?

for me top 7 can be batsmen it depends on who is around

Ideally you have all rounders at 6 and 7 I know but im happy playing stokes at 6 then batsmen at 7 especially one who gives you a bit with the ball

mo has been up and down like a pros knickers so hard to judge him but I think he would be good at 7 counter attacking as Butler has yet to prove himself in tests despite the undoubted talent

can you imagine stoke skipper going at kholi or smith

I can see both captains getting cards but would be fun to watch
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1114 on: December 08, 2016, 04:33:45 PM »

Moeen's feasted on the terrible Sri Lankan attack to boost those stats #7. Buttler at #7 can single handily win matches(I'm not biased to Buttler at all...cough cough Somerset lad  :D).

If Moeen is a front line batsman he has to bat in the top 5. Otherwise he carries the water.

you have got too many cider apples in front of you Felix to see the full pint. :)

Look back thru the last couple of years, Mo has contributed significantly to our lower order batting, time and again he gets runs and not just against SL, try Australia at home for a start.

why do England insist on batting him too high? I really don't know. He wants to bat higher? yes.....but it suits the team to bat after bairstow and probably Woakes.
he has a lower order mentality batting and he wont change that.it's all between the ears, he wants to play shots and needs freedom lower down to do that, so does Stokes...

and up until this tour, he has been our best spinner available to us.

IMHO  :)
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1115 on: December 08, 2016, 04:35:52 PM »

why does a front line batsmen have to bat in top 5?

for me top 7 can be batsmen it depends on who is around

Ideally you have all rounders at 6 and 7 I know but im happy playing stokes at 6 then batsmen at 7 especially one who gives you a bit with the ball

mo has been up and down like a pros knickers so hard to judge him but I think he would be good at 7 counter attacking as Butler has yet to prove himself in tests despite the undoubted talent

can you imagine stoke skipper going at kholi or smith

I can see both captains getting cards but would be fun to watch
Moeen isn't an all rounder, more bits and pieces. Only Stokes is a true all rounder. You pick your best players that can potentially win you matches. Rashid's improved bowling will win more matches than Moeen's occasional biff hidden down at #7.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1116 on: December 08, 2016, 04:36:58 PM »

you have got too many cider apples in front of you Felix to see the full pint. :)

Look back thru the last couple of years, Mo has contributed significantly to our lower order batting, time and again he gets runs and not just against SL, try Australia at home for a start.

why do England insist on batting him too high? I really don't know. He wants to bat higher? yes.....but it suits the team to bat after bairstow and probably Woakes.
he has a lower order mentality batting and he wont change that.it's all between the ears, he wants to play shots and needs freedom lower down to do that, so does Stokes...

and up until this tour, he has been our best spinner available to us.

IMHO  :)
Leachy baby will dispute the last statement  :(
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1117 on: December 08, 2016, 04:52:32 PM »

Leachy baby will dispute the last statement  :(
haha
 :)

Taunton has been a road in the past, it wasn't this year...

but he's good, and a bit unlucky not to get on the India tour. Don't think your Captain Rodgers did him any favours saying he's not ready.

Unless of course Chris Rodgers is/was right and he needs another season
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1118 on: December 08, 2016, 04:54:24 PM »

Leachy baby will dispute the last statement  :(

A few good judges of a player think it's a bit early for Leach yet. Let's see how he copes in lions games and in his follow up season. I still feel Moen has a place in.the current team and can't see who you would replace him.with and why. Any decent captain will tell you it's useful to have an.off spinner in your attack whatever the conditions..
 
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1119 on: December 08, 2016, 04:54:56 PM »

next captain will be root unless he turns it down surely

Roots favourite but Buttler is seen as the next Mike brearley the thinking cricketer With the knack of getting the best out of players on the field
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1120 on: December 08, 2016, 04:59:06 PM »

Roots favourite but Buttler is seen as the next Mike brearley the thinking cricketer With the knack of getting the best out of players on the field


Nnnooooo. Jos only one day... Test has to be Stokesy and from next series. Him and smith would bring new supporters to the game... :D
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1121 on: December 08, 2016, 05:05:52 PM »

England see something in Butler as he was straight in when Morgan pulled out of the one-dayers...

not sure about Tests thou. I would have Butler in the Test side myself but we are going to get crammed with Ball/Broad/Hameed...and now Jennings has had the ideal start.

it's certainly getting competitive for places....

as a slight aside.. Gary Balance?  no way back I can see. He's a good player but.....maybe back to Yorks to get form back. I think myself he will now need to score massive to get a look.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1122 on: December 08, 2016, 05:32:37 PM »


Nnnooooo. Jos only one day... Test has to be Stokesy and from next series. Him and smith would bring new supporters to the game... :D

Yes of course Ben would be a good choice to captain on the pitch but Jos is also about all the other stuff
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1123 on: December 08, 2016, 05:43:33 PM »

Something I'm my water tells me butler would be an excellent captain, stokes should be left to be a world class alrounder......botham, Flintoff captaincy ring any bells ?
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1124 on: December 08, 2016, 05:48:17 PM »

Jennings in my view should have gone originally instead of Duckett.

Jennings was pretty much the stand out in the top division last year in a poor Durham side.

Very good player who score runs all season against everybody.

Good player this lad maybe not English but hey he picked and I wish him well as he playing for his/my country.

As I was saying could have looked daft if he had held on mind!!!

Rate Jennings
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