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[Seniorplayer]

Thought we are talking about all rounders

And when Wood gonna happen ? 

End of the day Woakes is quality weather you pull up and stats you want I know you don't like him an love to pull the crap stays out but Woakes is a proven test cricketer and has proven when you give him a run he usually does well

Here's why what you have written doesn't add up

Proven test cricketers and proven test cricket all rounders score big hundreds and take wickets and the best can do so in the same test  match.

[northernboy1987]

I would open with Anderson and wood in.the next 12 months.

You just try and take that new ball off of Broad without being on the receiving end of a major league hissy fit haha

[tate035]

You just try and take that new ball off of Broad without being on the receiving end of a major league hissy fit haha

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How true... Another reason why Stokesy should get captain's job. He will upset Broad for the sake of the team (just look how he has reigned his batting in during the recent series)..
Personally, I think Captain Cook would never take the new ball off Broad... I was just stating what I think would work..
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[procricket]

Here's why what you have written doesn't add up

Proven test cricketers and proven test cricket all rounders score big hundreds and take wickets and the best can do so in the same test  match.

We shall see.

I guess I must bow down to your superior knowledge of the game and the fact you know it all.

Fair play..

All I know is England think a lot about Woakes and over the last 18 months not many have come on like he has...

But I will bow to you

I guess we must modifiy him down to a moderate all rounder who averages 30 with bat and ball.

For me and only me your doing ok if you average 30 with bat and ball at test cricket.

[Seniorplayer]

We shall see.

I guess I must bow down to your superior knowledge of the game and the fact you know it all.

Fair play..

All I know is England think a lot about Woakes and over the last 18 months not many have come on like he has...

But I will bow to you



I guess we must modifiy him down to a moderate all rounder who averages 30 with bat and ball.

For me and only me your doing ok if you average 30 with bat and ball at test cricket.

To write that I am condescending Dave  is unnesserary but  what we both know is many factors can influence averages 

[six and out]

Jimmy is out of the 5th test - so Broad in if fit or debut for Dawson or Batty again if 3 spinners or drop Ball as well and completely change everything.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/38326461

[csnew]

Is "general soreness" just an excuse for being dropped??

4 wickets in 3 matches

[ppccopener]

England wouldn't drop him when he is fit same with Broad.....but like all the other seamers there has not been many wickets.

Anderson needs something in the pitch to get wickets, like a lot of bowlers...

[csnew]

England wouldn't drop him when he is fit same with Broad.....but like all the other seamers there has not been many wickets.

Anderson needs something in the pitch to get wickets, like a lot of bowlers...

Don't buy it, a lot easier to say he's injured then saying he's been dropped. Stops the opposition and press getting on his back particularly after his comments last match. Pointless him playing in the last test anyway, might as well give the experience to someone like ball. Don't see Anderson touring the subcontinent again, save him for home conditions

[tate035]

England wouldn't drop him when he is fit same with Broad.....but like all the other seamers there has not been many wickets.

Anderson needs something in the pitch to get wickets, like a lot of bowlers...

This isn't going to happen but....
Rest Broad.. Let Ball open the bowling.. Play the extra spinner... Bat Ali in this order...
Cook
Jennings
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Butler
Ali
Woakes
Rashid
Ball
?

This way after the openers the left hand, right hand combination comes in.. Not rocket science to know that have 4 lefties come in one after another gives the bowlers a great opportunity to just hit a length..

Like I said.. Never going to happen..

[tim2000s]

Is "general soreness" just an excuse for being dropped??

No, it's a euphemism for being rogered by the opposition...

[ppccopener]

Don't buy it, a lot easier to say he's injured then saying he's been dropped. Stops the opposition and press getting on his back particularly after his comments last match. Pointless him playing in the last test anyway, might as well give the experience to someone like ball. Don't see Anderson touring the subcontinent again, save him for home conditions

I like Ball, big heart, tall and he's pretty quick. England will not want to lose Anderson and Broad at the same time (retirement/injury) i'm getting worried about both.

Youre right Jimmy won't be bowling much on flat decks anymore I don't think. We need to get as long as possible out of him and Broad.

think about taking out Anderson and Broad and we are not flushed with options. Ball yes, Woakes......

cant see what all the fuss is about the curran brothers but ive been wrong before 

[edge]

In related news, Jennings to captain the lions vs Sri Lanka in February, with Hameed also selected. No Duckett for the first class games which is a surprise/shame. Be interesting to see where Jennings and Hameed bat! More county top 3 bats in Gubbins/Westley also included in the squad, will Jennings and Hameed open together or (presumably most likely) will one of them bat 3?

[edge]

This way after the openers the left hand, right hand combination comes in.. Not rocket science to know that have 4 lefties come in one after another gives the bowlers a great opportunity to just hit a length..

I'm always curious when people talk about alternating left/right handers in batting lineups - if a left hander gets out, are you going to promote the next leftie up a spot to keep the combination going? If not, what's the point?

[six and out]

I think either Broad or Dawson will play dependent on the pitch and how much experience Cook wants in his seam attack.

I reckon they rate Ball so they will give him another go so just a question of whether we play 3 spinners.

As has been said I really would like to see the batting order change but it's not going to happen.

Side and order i want -

Cook
Jennings
Root
Bairstow
Butler
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Dawson
Ball
Rashid

I don't see any point playing Broad or Jimmy in a dead rubber - play 3 spinners in Chennai (Ashwins home ground) - Ali should be batting at 7 - also i would like to give Butler the chance to prove he can do it up the order.