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[tate035]

England have Plunkett  as quick as anyone always does well when selected  and a decent bat he should have been on this tour

I agree. Rumours are that he has upset someone within the "test " set up for whatever reason and therefore not considered. Strange because he has a brute of a short ball and if one thing the Indians don't play well,.it's the short ball.
Before anyone says it... Yes you can still bowl short and at the body on benign pitches... 

[Manormanic]

All good points.. I tend to agree with the make-up of the side for next few one day series, however IMHO Woakes, Jordan, Finn, Plunkett and Willey don't have enough variation's in their death bowling..
Many games are won and lost on last 10 overs. That's another reason why I would take Morgan out of the equation. Not playing enough cricket and his choice of death bowlers is usually shocking..

Though Plunkett and Willey are not really death bowlers, are they?  Willey bowls with the new ball for the majority of his overs, and Plunkett bowls, generally, between 10-40 where he can use his ability to intimidate.  Woakes and Finn are not death specialists, but Jordan does okay with his yorkers and slower balls, and Stokes has made something of an art of this in recent months.  If fit, Wood nails it too on sheer pace.  Plus, lets be fair, neither Curran is a death specialist either - Sam is, as of now, a slightly slower Willey and Tom is best used up front too. 

[Manormanic]

I agree. Rumours are that he has upset someone within the "test " set up for whatever reason and therefore not considered. Strange because he has a brute of a short ball and if one thing the Indians don't play well,.it's the short ball.
Before anyone says it... Yes you can still bowl short and at the body on benign pitches... 

Even as a proud Yorkshireman, I would have struggled to argue for Liam Plunkett to make the test side.

What you say makes some sense - it is I suspect the argument that kept Finn in the reckoning - but a glance at Liam's first class stats in the last season and a half will quickly disabuse you of the notion that he was a contender - yes, he played through a quad injury last season which did not help, but less than 20 wickets at worse than 40.... there is a reason that he is not a nailed on first pick even for his (admittedly well stocked) county...

[SOULMAN1012]

Only my opinion but no point playing broad or Anderson give some others that have had a disappointing tour the chance to put that right

Cook
Jennings
Root
Duckett
YJB
Stokes
Butler
Ali
Rashid
Ball
Ansari

Be interesting to see how Billings does in BBL. I do believe he was close to a test call up
In this series so he is defiantly rated and in my opinion is as destructive as anyone else in our pool
Of players except Butler who is world class ODI player.

[Sam]

Only my opinion but no point playing broad or Anderson give some others that have had a disappointing tour the chance to put that right

Cook
Jennings
Root
Duckett
YJB
Stokes
Butler
Ali
Rashid
Ball
Ansari

Be interesting to see how Billings does in BBL. I do believe he was close to a test call up
In this series so he is defiantly rated and in my opinion is as destructive as anyone else in our pool
Of players except Butler who is world class ODI player.

Hasn't Ansari already flown home? Press seem to be suggesting it'll be Dawson, Ali, Rashid, Stokes with 2 of Woakes, Ball and Broad in the bowling department.

[Seniorplayer]

Would agree with not playing Broad and Anderson but rather than play the ones that  have  failed and disappointed   get some new faces in players that haven't tasted defeat at this level renewed vigorous and all that

[Manormanic]

But...bringing in from outside the squad without an obvious gap would make for a damaging long term statement...

[SOULMAN1012]

Would agree with not playing Broad and Anderson but rather than play the ones that  have  failed and disappointed   get some new faces in players that haven't tasted defeat at this level renewed vigorous and all that

I 100% get the logic in that my only argument is that the players selected for this tour contained new test match players in Duckett, Hameed, Ball, Ansari and to a degree Batty with a 10year gap and Rashid being fairly new to test cricket. We can't and in my view drop or not play them. We have stuck by Cook, Anderson, Broad in the past and they same good and are now world class. I believe the team picked at the start should be the ones that play as they are good enough hence getting picked in the first place and give them a pat on the back and encouragement.

Also says a bit about the coaching etc if we have not worked with these players over the last 2/3 weeks and hopefully helped them a bit.
If Ansari has flown home that's rubbish in my opinion, I know he played for lions last week and I believe took wickets

[ppccopener]

Far as I know Ansari def left the tour with a back injury...I thought he cam Home to the UK.

Not sure selection  we have got it right this tour to be honest, it's a bit of a mess.

Soulman does have a point, you pick a side for the right reasons, it's goes a bit pear shaped and all of a sudden there are too. Many changes and the team is disrupted. We seem to have lost our nerve a bit.

Duckett has not been selected for the lions in the longer games, this I don't get. Either he is potentially a test batsman or not. yes his confidence might have gone a bit facing Ashwin but he gets better players than Duckett out.

I don't really believe he is un selectable, you don't get picked without having a bit of character in the first place.

He needs to get back on the horse sooner rather than later. I'd put my house on him just wanting a chance to put it right on the field.

[six and out]

Dawson was picked to replace Ansari who was struggling with a back injury the press were told he was staying in India to receive treatment on it until flying home on December 8th.

[Calzehbhoy]

Got a feeling there is something more to the whole Duckett thing. To not be in the white ball squads either shows something has happened behind the scenes that the management don't like.

[Seniorplayer]

But...bringing in from outside the squad without an obvious gap would make for a damaging long term statement...

Would it  though  no better way to motivate these that have disappointed  than sending out  a  failures  will not be tolerated message

[Seniorplayer]

Far as I know Ansari def left the tour with a back injury...I thought he cam Home to the UK.

Not sure selection  we have got it right this tour to be honest, it's a bit of a mess.

Soulman does have a point, you pick a side for the right reasons, it's goes a bit pear shaped and all of a sudden there are too. Many changes and the team is disrupted. We seem to have lost our nerve a bit.

Duckett has not been selected for the lions in the longer games, this I don't get. Either he is potentially a test batsman or not. yes his confidence might have gone a bit facing Ashwin but he gets better players than Duckett out.

I don't really believe he is un selectable, you don't get picked without having a bit of character in the first place.

He needs to get back on the horse sooner rather than later. I'd put my house on him just wanting a chance to put it right on the field.

Agree with all the points on Duckett but  due to the pressure he would be under wouldn't play him again this series to face Ashwin

[JB]

Jennings and Cook out early, 21-2 from 13 isn't the best start!

Ishant got Jennings and no big surprise that Jadeja got Cook caught at slip

[CrickFreak]

India bats before tea??? 
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