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[Vitas Cricket]

The butterfly mark is a dead zone!

Until it is knocked/played in, which admittedly can take an agonisingly long time, then its probably the most responsive part of the whole tree.

In an era where people demand instant performance from the day of purchase, and value is put on looks, its easy to see why butterfly has fallen out of favour. At one time it was the most valuable type of willow.

[smilley792]

Tim Phillips using a b3 butterfly he didn't even knock in!!

https://youtu.be/VeJQoKNF-x4


Definately no performance there..........

[Sitonit]

Until it is knocked/played in, which admittedly can take an agonisingly long time, then its probably the most responsive part of the whole tree.

In an era where people demand instant performance from the day of purchase, and value is put on looks, its easy to see why butterfly has fallen out of favour. At one time it was the most valuable type of willow.

You may call yourself some high profile bat expert but sorry, I don't agree with you.

Butterfly mark does not get any better even if you bang it with a sledge hammer.

[simonmay5]

Last year sd sold the kookaburra bubble star that was bleached underneath was butterfly stains and cost 11 pound some of the best pinging bats I have had take time to get going but boy do they go

[smilley792]

My mate using his b3 butterfly

https://youtu.be/L-33xYxcRNk

[Sitonit]

Tim Phillips using a b3 butterfly he didn't even knock in!!

https://youtu.be/VeJQoKNF-x4


Definately no performance there..........

What do you have? A microscope attached to your eyes? Are you saying every six that he hit was made because the ball made the contact in the heart of butterfly mark?

If yes, that's the case then it makes it even worse. Because now what you are saying is that a batsman has to be super focused and super correct to make sure the ball hits the butterfly mark to travel farther.

[Sitonit]

Last year sd sold the kookaburra bubble star that was bleached underneath was butterfly stains and cost 11 pound some of the best pinging bats I have had take time to get going but boy do they go

No, they don't! You are hallucinating.

[simonmay5]

No, they don't! You are hallucinating.

Off course mate mate whatever you want to believe

[tom line]

I've actually got one of said butterfly bats from sd at the moment and definitely pings and that's from the word go, maybe it isnt the bat that's the problem but instead the one who is holding it....

[Vitas Cricket]

You may call yourself some high profile bat expert but sorry, I don't agree with you.

Butterfly mark does not get any better even if you bang it with a sledge hammer.

I don't call myself anything.

Believe whatever you like, it seems sensible discussion falls on deaf ears.

[WalkingWicket37]

I don't call myself anything.

No need to mate, I call you more than enough to make up for it! 

[InternalTraining]

Until it is knocked/played in, which admittedly can take an agonisingly long time, then its probably the most responsive part of the whole tree.

In an era where people demand instant performance from the day of purchase, and value is put on looks, its easy to see why butterfly has fallen out of favour. At one time it was the most valuable type of willow.

The reality is that I don't have a lot of time during or before season to knock (net or mallet) a bat to prepare it. Naturally, the bat that opens up quickly with little effort is the winner. I am not the only one who feels this way and this is the reality of today's amateur/hobbyist cricketer. Having said that, bats that open up quickly or are not less durable than ones that take a long time.

[i12breakfree]

The reality is that I don't have a lot of time during or before season to knock (net or mallet) a bat to prepare it. Naturally, the bat that opens up quickly with little effort is the winner. I am not the only one who feels this way and this is the reality of today's amateur/hobbyist cricketer. Having said that, bats that open up quickly or are not less durable than ones that take a long time.

I was gonna post this on the Lignum Vitae mallet thread. I have a grainy RNS kohli profile. The bat ping at start was average. At the same time i bought the mallet. So religiously i spent 10-15 minutes daily knocking the bat. That bat has opened up so well that it may be one of the best pinging bats i have with me. It took time but worth the effort. And since i know how well the bat is knocked, i should be less worried of edge cracks etc.

[Bats_Entertainment]

Tim Phillips retired aged 33.

[InternalTraining]

I was gonna post this on the Lignum Vitae mallet thread. I have a grainy RNS kohli profile. The bat ping at start was average. At the same time i bought the mallet. So religiously i spent 10-15 minutes daily knocking the bat. That bat has opened up so well that it may be one of the best pinging bats i have with me. It took time but worth the effort. And since i know how well the bat is knocked, i should be less worried of edge cracks etc.

That is great !

I don't care about the looks of the bat, give me an ugly bat that performs any day. It is the time that is a big factor.

I also think there are some bats , regardless of how ugly they are, just don't perform no matter how much you knock them.