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[ppccopener]

So a whitewash for PAK.Lyon back in the wickets.
All for all those England fans(im England ) who dont rate Lyon...
He would WALK into our team at the moment

Tougher tasks await the Aussies in India,no series wins since 2004 or something.

[smilley792]

Just trying to figure out why every set off highlights has no footage of the yasir shah wicket??

Did something happen? Was there a power cut in the stadium? And emp? Or is it just an oversight by 5 different tv channels???

[Manormanic]

All for all those England fans(im England ) who dont rate Lyon...
He would WALK into our team at the moment

I'm sorry but don't talk such absolute piffle.

He hasn't taken a five wicket haul in 28 tests.  Two tests ago even the most die hard of Aussie fans were calling for his nuts on the chopping block.  A few cheap wickets against a demoralised side does not make him anything other than a clubbie.

Is that to say that Moeen and Rashid are world class?  No, they are not.  But both would get the nod ahead of Lyon.  O'Keefe might feasibly be a different matter...

[northernboy1987]

So a whitewash for PAK.Lyon back in the wickets.
All for all those England fans(im England ) who dont rate Lyon...
He would WALK into our team at the moment

Tougher tasks await the Aussies in India,no series wins since 2004 or something.

He took 5/215 across the two innings, am I missing something Carlo?

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He took 5/215 across the two innings, am I missing something Carlo?

No not missing anything!! I might be thou haha

[northernboy1987]

No not missing anything!! I might be thou haha

I miss the ball a lot, does that count?

[ppccopener]

I'm sorry but don't talk such absolute piffle.

He hasn't taken a five wicket haul in 28 tests.  Two tests ago even the most die hard of Aussie fans were calling for his nuts on the chopping block.  A few cheap wickets against a demoralised side does not make him anything other than a clubbie.

Is that to say that Moeen and Rashid are world class?  No, they are not.  But both would get the nod ahead of Lyon.  O'Keefe might feasibly be a different matter...

Ive just had a strong coffee in the cafe. Perhaps i didnt get across what i wanted, Lyon is not a clubbie by any means,ok not the greatest.

If your choice is lyon rashid or ali being picked as a spinner Lyon gets picked every time.If he is not getting wickets he keeps the run rate down more than our two

[Manormanic]

If your choice is lyon rashid or ali being picked as a spinner Lyon gets picked every time.If he is not getting wickets he keeps the run rate down more than our two

If your choices were those three, purely for their bowling, you would have two options:
1. Rashid, and accept that he would not bowl much in the first innings (unless Saqlain was around, in which case this is the only option) or
2. Pick another seamer.

And that is without taking into account that Lyon is a bowler who cannot bat, whereas Ali is an all round option and Rashid can certainly hold one (though I'll admit that he has not transferred his batting ability to tests as well as I had expected he might)

Seriously - Lyon briefly managed to elevate himself above clubbie status after the last ashes in Australia but has bowled lots of tripe ever since - if he was from any other country, he would have been dropped ages ago but Australia feel that they are weak in the spin department, so he has had a lot of reprieves.  The economy issue is a fallacy - he was economical a few years back but now goes at 3.5ish with horribly defensive fields.

He will probably make the side in India.  But he won't play for Australia again if he doesn't find a huge series from somewhere.

[Number4]

Just trying to figure out why every set off highlights has no footage of the yasir shah wicket??

Did something happen? Was there a power cut in the stadium? And emp? Or is it just an oversight by 5 different tv channels???

Of Shah getting out you mean?

[smilley792]

Of Shah getting out you mean?

Yeah his wicket, as it fell. Only Pakistan batted today mate.

[Number4]

It's on the cricket Australia site. Regulation catch in gully. Not sure why it wouldn't be shown

[Number4]

About 4.20

https://youtu.be/MeIMk-l-S4U

[smilley792]

About 4.20

https://youtu.be/MeIMk-l-S4U

Tah

Must just be an editing anomaly. May be the coverages company's get the same
Highlight packages sent.

[Felix Tito]

If your choices were those three, purely for their bowling, you would have two options:
1. Rashid, and accept that he would not bowl much in the first innings (unless Saqlain was around, in which case this is the only option) or
2. Pick another seamer.

And that is without taking into account that Lyon is a bowler who cannot bat, whereas Ali is an all round option and Rashid can certainly hold one (though I'll admit that he has not transferred his batting ability to tests as well as I had expected he might)

Seriously - Lyon briefly managed to elevate himself above clubbie status after the last ashes in Australia but has bowled lots of tripe ever since - if he was from any other country, he would have been dropped ages ago but Australia feel that they are weak in the spin department, so he has had a lot of reprieves.  The economy issue is a fallacy - he was economical a few years back but now goes at 3.5ish with horribly defensive fields.

He will probably make the side in India.  But he won't play for Australia again if he doesn't find a huge series from somewhere.

Talking rubbish as per usual.

No one, apart from a delusional Yorkshireman like you, would pick Rashid over Lyon. Rashid has shown without Saqlain holding his hand he's mentally inept for Test cricket.

Lyon isn't the reincarnation of EAS Prasanna but he's a solid performer.

Whether Rashid or Ali can bat is irrelevant, a spinner job is to take wickets not have a slog with the bat.

[Manormanic]

No one, apart from a delusional Yorkshireman like you, would pick Rashid over Lyon. Rashid has shown without Saqlain holding his hand he's mentally inept for Test cricket.

Lyon isn't the reincarnation of EAS Prasanna but he's a solid performer.

Talking rubbish is more your forte.  As you have again evidenced.  Well done Gerry.

Lyon's only tactic is to set the field back and bowl round the wicket.  Which is why he hardly takes a wicket game after game and falls to bits whenever he is faced with a spinning deck (look at how all and sundry out bowled him in Sri Lanka) because he knows his painful limitations will be demonstrated to all and sundry.  I have not claimed Rashid is the new Kumble - he clearly needs to be supported and given confidence from his captain - but he has demonstrated enough to know that he would be the better bet of the two.