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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2017, 01:12:34 PM »

So it doesn't make a difference, makes sense
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2017, 01:18:18 PM »

It isn't as simple as F=MA gents, go buy yourself a very heavy mahogany cricket bat with a 20mm spine and see how it compares. That said, when pro players are hitting it out of stadiums with a 70mm spine bat, making them use one with a 67mm spine isn't going to stop them clearing the 65 yards to the boundary.
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2017, 01:19:47 PM »

yep the biggest differences for me are the following (not necessarily the bigger bats) -

more practicing of specific big/range hitting etc...
better players strength conditioning + lighter clefts = more bat speed in players shots
smaller boundaries
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2017, 01:47:43 PM »

It isn't as simple as F=MA gents, go buy yourself a very heavy mahogany cricket bat with a 20mm spine and see how it compares. That said, when pro players are hitting it out of stadiums with a 70mm spine bat, making them use one with a 67mm spine isn't going to stop them clearing the 65 yards to the boundary.

im talking purely willow vs willow rather than other woods vs willow

i think were all in agreement that its daft and seamless balls, small boundaries and flat wickets are bigger issues
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2017, 02:59:49 PM »

Ban the wrong un'.

It's unfair that I have to work out which way it's going to turn.

On a more serious note, the more I think about it, the more I like making it easier to mankad.

I'd be ashamed knowing me/my team mates won the match by stealing yards.
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2017, 03:18:47 PM »

Don't see the Mankad much because of the spirit side of cricket, that won't change much now just because it's easier to do, it'll still be frowned upon.

Mankading isn't a problem effecting the game really anyway, changing rules regarding it won't change anything. Just a rule change for the sake of it in my eyes.
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2017, 05:37:33 PM »

Does that mean halestorm will be discontinued next season?
Majority of OZ team plays with these big bats.

From what i see in the test series - DW is playing with a big GN bat. Rest of them don't look that huge .. which other player are you referring to?
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2017, 05:40:30 PM »

Imaging someone playing with 2lb 15oz - 45mm edges and 75 mm spine. Now if he wants to maintain the same shape and bring down edge/spine size but still want the same weight then the willow will need to have higher density.

Does this mean low density clefts are going to get cheaper then  :D :D ??
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2017, 06:40:29 PM »

From what i see in the test series - DW is playing with a big GN bat. Rest of them don't look that huge .. which other player are you referring to?

Check starc's
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2017, 07:13:10 PM »

Imaging someone playing with 2lb 15oz - 45mm edges and 75 mm spine. Now if he wants to maintain the same shape and bring down edge/spine size but still want the same weight then the willow will need to have higher density.

Does this mean low density clefts are going to get cheaper then  :D :D ??

No, they simply spread the wood across the blade. Wouldn't be surprised if we see more convex bats and big toes. The pros will still hit it miles as the MCC have just made all cricket bats more forgiving! The pros will swing them quicker thanks to reduced weight of the lighter clefts so the ball will travel further.
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2017, 10:04:14 PM »

I think the check will be via a bat gauge which will have a straight line from the 40 mm edge to the 67 mm spine and the whole bat needs to pass through it. So as some are stating that next shape will be the spine height of 67 mm spread wide, is not going to pass the test. Similarly convex back profiles with 40 edge and 67 spine wouldn't pass either due to the straight line restriction from edge to spine peak.
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2017, 11:05:39 PM »

I think the check will be via a bat gauge which will have a straight line from the 40 mm edge to the 67 mm spine and the whole bat needs to pass through it. So as some are stating that next shape will be the spine height of 67 mm spread wide, is not going to pass the test. Similarly convex back profiles with 40 edge and 67 spine wouldn't pass either due to the straight line restriction from edge to spine peak.

I think you are right, which is a shame. From what I read there is 7mm for the curve on the face, 40mm on the edge and 60mm spine. Basically any remaining innovation will stop if you have a cut out to check the shape of the bat.
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2017, 11:10:20 PM »

I think you are right, which is a shame. From what I read there is 7mm for the curve on the face, 40mm on the edge and 60mm spine. Basically any remaining innovation will stop if you have a cut out to check the shape of the bat.

Wait, so a flat faced (F2) bat can only have a 62mm spine, while a F7 faced bat could have 67mm?
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2017, 11:13:37 PM »

Back to F7 faces then, did someone say GM Icon 😉
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #44 on: March 07, 2017, 11:16:01 PM »

None of this matters. The sixes will continue unless pitches are changed or boundaries made bigger. This really is one of the dumbest things the ICC has spent time in.
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