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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #630 on: July 31, 2017, 01:59:49 PM »

Definitely time for more call to drop Moeen...

Dawson would have got a hat trick on day 4
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #631 on: July 31, 2017, 02:00:29 PM »

If, for arguments sake, they both make runs against a weaker WI attack have the selectors really learned anything of note though?

Well - it doesn't take a genius to see that Jennings is looking like a walking wicket.
So the selectors can take a look at Hameed and Stoneman. You can see whoever the batsmen are batting against whether they are looking in decent nick.
Therefore it should give an indication of their form. And as Stoneman and Hameed (and possibly Gubbins) would be the most obvious candidates for opening alongside Cook, then it would surely give you the option to take both in the squad? What are the alternatives? Jennings may have scored 48 this match but he really hasn't looked convincing at any time.
With Stoneman you have someone who looks on decent form and with Hameed you have a real long-term future opener hopefully.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #632 on: July 31, 2017, 02:07:19 PM »

Anyone listen to TMS this morning and the Boycott wind up? Very funny, and vaguely related to the series :D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05b5j5t
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #633 on: July 31, 2017, 02:09:29 PM »

Well - it doesn't take a genius to see that Jennings is looking like a walking wicket.
So the selectors can take a look at Hameed and Stoneman. You can see whoever the batsmen are batting against whether they are looking in decent nick.
Therefore it should give an indication of their form. And as Stoneman and Hameed (and possibly Gubbins) would be the most obvious candidates for opening alongside Cook, then it would surely give you the option to take both in the squad? What are the alternatives? Jennings may have scored 48 this match but he really hasn't looked convincing at any time.
With Stoneman you have someone who looks on decent form and with Hameed you have a real long-term future opener hopefully.

All I meant was if they (Stoneman and Hameed) both play against WI and score say, 300 runs each across the series (as an example) are we any closer to knowing who partners Cook in the 1st Ashes Test, how do you pick between them? I agree Jennings hasn't looked great, but I thought he looked decent in India, I wouldn't like to be a selector haha!

Great win today though!
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #634 on: July 31, 2017, 02:33:09 PM »

All I meant was if they (Stoneman and Hameed) both play against WI and score say, 300 runs each across the series (as an example) are we any closer to knowing who partners Cook in the 1st Ashes Test, how do you pick between them? I agree Jennings hasn't looked great, but I thought he looked decent in India, I wouldn't like to be a selector haha!

Great win today though!

Don't think you can pick anyone for Aus based on the WI tests in  the ICC rankings only the likes of Banladesh and Zimbabwe are behind them.


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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #635 on: July 31, 2017, 04:02:23 PM »

Don't think you can pick anyone for Aus based on the WI tests in  the ICC rankings only the likes of Banladesh and Zimbabwe are behind them.

That was partly what I was getting at.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #636 on: July 31, 2017, 05:23:42 PM »

I think we need to rest Cook and "rest" Jennings for the WI Tests and open with Hameed and Stoneman.
I realise the WI bowling attack are a lot weaker than the Aussies bowling attack but need to see how the prospective openers look!
Plus it could give Hameed the chance to start getting back in form at a decent level! And if he looks like a walking wicket (like Jennings does) then it ensures that Stoneman is also looked at!
What do we need to rest Cook for, he's played a massive 3 international games in 2017!? Word seems to be that the England camp don't actually rate Stoneman that highly, so don't hold your breath Surrey fans.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #637 on: July 31, 2017, 05:55:06 PM »

Stoneman seems to score quite a lot of runs through third man. This might not bode well for Test cricket?
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #638 on: July 31, 2017, 06:00:31 PM »

Will / should not play 5 seamers. TRJ or Woakes.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #639 on: August 01, 2017, 08:59:33 AM »

They've picked Steve Finn again for the 4th test surely this is a step backwards or show that they are worried that Mark Wood won't be fit enough to tour in the winter.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #640 on: August 01, 2017, 09:05:12 AM »

They've picked Steve Finn again for the 4th test surely this is a step backwards or show that they are worried that Mark Wood won't be fit enough to tour in the winter.

Finn was in the squad for the last test too. Think he's there just in case a McGrath incident happens on the morning of the game.
Stoneman seems to score quite a lot of runs through third man. This might not bode well for Test cricket?

Isn't that were Root/Williamson score a number of their runs too?
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #641 on: August 01, 2017, 09:19:00 AM »

Ballance :(
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #642 on: August 01, 2017, 09:33:49 AM »

My understanding is if jennings fails in the 4th test then Stoneman gets the nod aswell as ballance back in for malan unless malan goes big. Can't see them resting anybody many of the team haven't played much redball cricket since India and stokes backed that up in his interviews.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #643 on: August 01, 2017, 09:40:49 AM »

I wonder if Ballance's time is up,he showed on his recent comeback the same technical flaws that leaves him highly susceptible to high quality fast bowling.That said,Malan looked like he had a few issues technically as well!
The players that come in get taken apart by the pundits,must be tough as a player for it not to get in your head!Hales,Duckett,Vince etc Al,even Westley despite doing so well,have their techniques taken apart by the guys on sky!
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #644 on: August 01, 2017, 10:08:54 AM »


Isn't that were Root/Williamson score a number of their runs too?

Let's hope he's as good as they are!
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