Topic: Ashes 2017-18 (Read 407635 times)

jamielsn15 · « **Reply #240 on:** September 28, 2017, 01:00:36 PM »

I think regardless of any police action he's got an ECB ban coming. Justification for which would simply be 'why the hell were you there?'

Michael Vauaghan saying yesterday on TMS he'd be amazed if he were fit for the first test, if he's actually on the plane.

Strauss must be absolutely furious and I don't blame him at all

tate035 · « **Reply #241 on:** September 28, 2017, 01:04:33 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on September 28, 2017, 12:46:04 PM

I�m sure there�s a huge number of fans hoping Stokes is telling the truth about defending a couple of other guys,the video looks real bad

He will need all mitigating evidence I would think in his favoursocial
Sports stars fall from grace this is real life, the comparison with Botham is not lost on me- only back in the day there was no video or social media

You are right this is REAL life and Stokes is just a normal human being. He has obviously snapped whilst under the influence of alcohol to someone trying to BOTTLE someone...

On a weekend this type of thing happens across many towns and cities in the country to the extent where some people are seriously hurt..

Yet I don't see the majority of the public hi lighting and condemning these people, however when one person who happens to be good at cricket does something similar, some people get all hysterical and start getting on their high horse..

Ben Stokes is human with the same faults as many and before you mention "role models" and "money they earn" you should perhaps look at politicians, senior policeman, bankers, lawyers etc etc who have done A LOT worse than what Stokes has done yet still keep their jobs and avoid prosecution...

ppccopener · « **Reply #242 on:** September 28, 2017, 01:07:24 PM »

There's no curfew under bayliss for the players -or at least there has not been up to now-

I too think he will get banned but if there is mitigation stuff for Stokes(defending other people/a bottle against him) it may not be the sack

Strauss won't shy away from a tough decision- he is sure in an awkward position thou
Stokes needs to be telling the truth about what happened I reckon to get off with a ban

The two gay guys he says he was defending are absolutely crucial they come forward surely?

iand123 · « **Reply #243 on:** September 28, 2017, 01:10:59 PM »

When we say Sack Ben Stokes, what does that mean? He'd never be able to play for england again? or his current central contract is torn up and he would have to earn another one?

tate035 · « **Reply #244 on:** September 28, 2017, 01:11:19 PM »

Quote from: golders on September 28, 2017, 12:57:31 PM

If Stokes had disarmed the tool with the bottle and performed a citizen's arrest,then fair enough. Going by what I've seen,he has taken the law into his own hands,surely it's as simple as that? Surely he faces the sack at the very least?

Jeez... That happens everyday doesn't it.. People go out and make a citizens arrest after being attacked with a bottle...

Seriously what a stupid comment to make Golders . Are you Australian or related to the man attacked???

ppccopener · « **Reply #245 on:** September 28, 2017, 01:18:44 PM »

Quote from: iand123 on September 28, 2017, 01:10:59 PM

When we say Sack Ben Stokes, what does that mean? He'd never be able to play for england again? or his current central contract is torn up and he would have to earn another one?

I can't remember the last time there was an incident like this....so at a guess he would be not selected the same as kevin Pietersen was....
Originally I thought he would be sacked myself but there seems some evidence it's not all one way.

Another guess is your conduct with the Ecb has a clause about what is not acceptable representing England.

Stokes needs to be telling the truth I think...and there is a bottle in the video for those that missed it(me)

Dazz · « **Reply #246 on:** September 28, 2017, 01:18:52 PM »

Why is Alex Hales getting absolutely no attention in all of this!! Kicking someone in the head numerous times while they're laying on the floor then running away, he should hope that the police don't get hold of the footage because he could be in a bit of bother himself!! The coward

tate035 · « **Reply #247 on:** September 28, 2017, 01:21:17 PM »

Quote from: iand123 on September 28, 2017, 01:10:59 PM

When we say Sack Ben Stokes, what does that mean? He'd never be able to play for england again? or his current central contract is torn up and he would have to earn another one?

Think people mean his central contract would be terminated.. Many a cricketer has been involved in a fight and kept his job and I would hope Stokes would be no different.. Strip him of his vice captaincy and then ask him to do some more community work (although Stokes does a lot for his old club already) .

Nobody benefits from him not playing for England again other than Durham, Big Bash, IPL etc etc.. So I hope Strauss doesn't set English cricket back 5 years and ban him for next 2years...

six and out · « **Reply #248 on:** September 28, 2017, 01:22:26 PM »

ECB Central Contract Allocation for 2017/18 is being announced on Monday as well

manno · « **Reply #249 on:** September 28, 2017, 01:29:03 PM »

Obviously the ecb are far more likely to set back the acceptable standard for behaviour of a contracted player by more than 5 years by offering up some token slap on the wrist, rather than rule out a required player for an important series. Priorities....

iand123 · « **Reply #250 on:** September 28, 2017, 01:36:31 PM »

Quote from: tate035 on September 28, 2017, 01:21:17 PM

Nobody benefits from him not playing for England again other than Durham, Big Bash, IPL etc etc.. So I hope Strauss doesn't set English cricket back 5 years and ban him for next 2years...

Can Durham afford his salary?

tate035 · « **Reply #251 on:** September 28, 2017, 01:36:46 PM »

Quote from: manno on September 28, 2017, 01:29:03 PM

Obviously the ecb are far more likely to set back the acceptable standard for behaviour of a contracted player by more than 5 years by offering up some token slap on the wrist, rather than rule out a required player for an important series. Priorities....

Ha!! You must be Australian.. He will lose the vice captaincy and the chance to one day captain his country.. He will possibly get a police caution, plus he will have to explain to his kids his actions and also take a lot of future abuse from cricketers and the general public...

Think that is sufficient punishment considering this sort of thing happens everyday in the UK and many people never even get a police caution for doing a lot worse..

tate035 · « **Reply #252 on:** September 28, 2017, 01:39:48 PM »

Quote from: iand123 on September 28, 2017, 01:36:31 PM

Can Durham afford his salary?

Lol.. This might sound strange but if England banned him I believe he would make his money playing the T20 tournaments and still play for Durham (for lesser wages than at Surrey etc) because they gave him a start in cricket.

golders · « **Reply #253 on:** September 28, 2017, 01:45:47 PM »

Quote from: tate035 on September 28, 2017, 01:11:19 PM

Jeez... That happens everyday doesn't it.. People go out and make a citizens arrest after being attacked with a bottle...

Seriously what a stupid comment to make Golders . Are you Australian or related to the man attacked???

No I'm a pommie! Maybe I was being a bit OTT, and I'm no expert on these matters- nor do I claim to be- what shocked me was the extreme nature of Stokes' reaction- let's not forget,people have been killed by a single punch.

manno · « **Reply #254 on:** September 28, 2017, 01:48:24 PM »

I can see why a royal flag waver and a convict might disagree on what "sufficient" punishment might be. I still think the guy is a savage and should be treated as such.

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