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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #300 on: September 28, 2017, 05:09:16 PM »

The last thing i hope i say on this ....
Too many people seem to be quick to bring up alcohol . Fair enough if its to understand how the situation got so out of hand or why so many poor decisions were made . But some people seem to bring up alcohol as if its some kind of mitigating circumstance that allows for a more forgiving assessment of the situation.  Well , (No Swearing Please) to that ! You choose to drink , you choose the consequences and  influence it has on your actions and capacity to make intelligent decisions .
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #301 on: September 28, 2017, 05:26:44 PM »

why not just let the courts decide his punishment and let his jail time (if any) determine how long he's out of the game... simple.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #302 on: September 28, 2017, 05:30:49 PM »

Well last post for me

Fair play if you can keep that level of control it's rare very rare

Personally I broke one of their jaws with a chair and an arm when they tried to swing at me

I stopped when they were both on the floor but if they had got up I would have put both down again for fear of them picking up another weapon

I got off with suspended and probation as was self defence but excessive force which I accept and was a learning experience but if people have weapons I make sure they are not going to use them again as if they are backing up really easy to grab another weapon

I was very lucky and do not take these things lightly and am not bragging in slightest as was an extremely scary time being in court facing 5 years in winson green , if not for witnesses and pub cctv I could have been sent down

To be fair since then I try to not drink too much and put myself in those situations as I know I won't back down so a work around in a way

But everything is easy to judge if you were not there
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #303 on: September 28, 2017, 05:32:12 PM »

In light of the ecb squad selections and recent events , my updated xl for eng at brisbane :
Cook
Stoneman
Root
Bairstow
Malan
Vince
Ali
Woakes
Foakes
Broad
Anderson

Part timers will have to be called upon to do more bowling , batting is a bit meh in parts , but at least the batting order is long .

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #304 on: September 28, 2017, 05:40:28 PM »

In light of the ecb squad selections and recent events , my updated xl for eng at brisbane :
Cook
Stoneman
Root
Bairstow
Malan
Vince
Ali
Woakes
Foakes
Broad
Anderson

Part timers will have to be called upon to do more bowling , batting is a bit meh in parts , but at least the batting order is long .

Id be fuming if i was foakes

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #305 on: September 28, 2017, 05:41:25 PM »

Does leave a hole in the side

but means Ali at 7 woakes 8 for me as part timers could go with flat kook ball and good aus pitches

Need 5 genuine bowlers for me then light relief with root and vince

I'd love plunkett to replace stokes and bat 9 extra pace and can bat
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #306 on: September 28, 2017, 06:03:32 PM »

Well last post for me

Fair play if you can keep that level of control it's rare very rare

Personally I broke one of their jaws with a chair and an arm when they tried to swing at me

I stopped when they were both on the floor but if they had got up I would have put both down again for fear of them picking up another weapon

I got off with suspended and probation as was self defence but excessive force which I accept and was a learning experience but if people have weapons I make sure they are not going to use them again as if they are backing up really easy to grab another weapon

I was very lucky and do not take these things lightly and am not bragging in slightest as was an extremely scary time being in court facing 5 years in winson green , if not for witnesses and pub cctv I could have been sent down

To be fair since then I try to not drink too much and put myself in those situations as I know I won't back down so a work around in a way

But everything is easy to judge if you were not there



I could comment so much on this but....
@roco , your reply/thoughts are measured , balanced and very, very candid.  Thats appreciated, respected and its a good trait to have . You admit you could have done some things a bit differently and that the court conclusions were fair enough. You also admit court was scary and that is admirable . You have reevaluated your behaviour/thoughts since , and that introspection helps to improve our capacity to think smart /quickly if ever in a similar situation.
Cudos to you bro !
Perhaps when you say my attitude /level of control is very rare , well maybe it is ....but ihave a feeling its about as common as any other pattern of response .
Lastly,  i think maybe you are being too harsh on yourself and that perhaps , if you were in a similar situation today , you could do the bare minimum while still looking  out for yourself  and your mates . :)
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #307 on: September 28, 2017, 06:05:52 PM »

Id be fuming if i was foakes



Never seen him bat ( heard great things though)...maybe after an innings or two id have faith to swap with woakes.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #308 on: September 28, 2017, 06:15:46 PM »

On a slightly lighter note, James Vince 'surprised' to get into the touring squad, well by my reckoning he starts and bats 3 with Malan in the middle order. That's a bit more than a surprise  its downright amazement.  :)
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #309 on: September 28, 2017, 06:20:44 PM »

If your team goes to plan and he bats well malan and vince should be worried. Put it that way.

Never seen him bat ( heard great things though)...maybe after an innings or two id have faith to swap with woakes.

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #310 on: September 28, 2017, 06:24:03 PM »

In the lead up to every ashes i have to remind myself that sooo many unpredictable things can happen in the leadup/course of the series.... whether it be punching opposition players , brawling on the street , rolling your anle on a cricket ball , flying a plane over a tour match etc etc . All makes it impossible to know 100% who will win , regardless of who looks better on paper .
Only six weeks. .....
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #311 on: September 28, 2017, 06:27:07 PM »

@Woodyspin .... can we have foakes then ? We'll swap you for nevill , wade , and any spinner ( other than lyon ) of your choice .
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #312 on: September 28, 2017, 06:28:17 PM »

@Woodyspin .... can we have foakes then ? We'll swap you for nevill , wade , and any spinner ( other than lyon ) of your choice .

1. No 2. definitely not and 3. if Agar can bat from Jimmy then sure.

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #313 on: September 28, 2017, 06:33:08 PM »

1. No 2. definitely not and 3. if Agar can bat from Jimmy then sure.



Not sure if you mean we can just swap foakes for agar .... but,  im  sorry you have to take the others too . Please , please. ...just get wade out of the country so oz cant select him anymore !
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #314 on: September 28, 2017, 06:43:09 PM »



Not sure if you mean we can just swap foakes for agar .... but,  im  sorry you have to take the others too . Please , please. ...just get wade out of the country so oz cant select him anymore !

If i was a convict id rather be doing the job myself. What have you got to be worried about? Starcs 90mph just stand a few yards back and wear 3 inners. Apart from hazlewood the rest who ive completely forgotten are average
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