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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #900 on: November 17, 2017, 12:08:25 AM »

I saw Tim Payne bat years back and yes looked good back then, and highly rated as a keeper before a bad injury.

But looking at his stats there's no case for a recall that makes any sense. He does not score enough runs and the stats show that in first class cricket. You could well argue he should of been playing a few years ago but selection is about now...if your picking a keeper only and forgetting about batting(!) we could of had the same dilemma with James foster and Chris read- both head and shoulders above anyone else but not enough batting wise to get picked over say Matt prior and now bairstow.

It the Shaun marsh one that is baffling thou to some over us. If he is 34 and not too old for a recall, then ed Cowan at 35 is too old to be recalled after showing some great form in the last couple of years.

Cowan if I have read correctly even had to make way for a younger player in his state team.

So if you want a younger guy fine, go with that but what's the difference between 34 years old and 35 ?

Someone is going to reply ' a year'  :)

365 Days  :D
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #901 on: November 17, 2017, 12:09:20 AM »

Poor selections England have a boost minus Warner smith and the bowlers place vs place England are stronger, if the Aussie bowers stay for the series then England have issues however I don’t think they willl! England 2-1 loss at Perth win Adelaide and Sydney draws gabba and mcg (possibly 3-1 eng win in Melbourne)

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #902 on: November 17, 2017, 12:19:09 AM »

Poor selections England have a boost minus Warner smith and the bowlers place vs place England are stronger, if the Aussie bowers stay for the series then England have issues however I don’t think they willl! England 2-1 loss at Perth win Adelaide and Sydney draws gabba and mcg (possibly 3-1 eng win in Melbourne)

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Cook vs warner
stoneman vs Bancroft/Renshaw
Vince vs khawaja
root vs smith
malan vs Handscomb
bairstow vs Marsh
ali vs Paine
woakes vs Cummins
Overton vs starc
broad vs Hazlewood
anderson vs Lyon

Batting and bowling taken into consideration bold is winner on head to head in likely line ups, I have included Renshaw as I don’t think Bancroft will last the series
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #903 on: November 17, 2017, 12:27:41 AM »

Poor selections England have a boost minus Warner smith and the bowlers place vs place England are stronger, if the Aussie bowers stay for the series then England have issues however I don’t think they willl! England 2-1 loss at Perth win Adelaide and Sydney draws gabba and mcg (possibly 3-1 eng win in Melbourne)

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Duuuuuude !
How many times do you guys need to hear that handsomb and khawaja will make plenty of runs !
This outlandish predicting has forced my hand , so i will make my own outlandish predictions .....
3-1 oz - eng to win at Adelaide and rain to play a part in one draw .
If not , then the next most likely outcomes are 4-0 or 3-0 . Less likely, but possible 3-2 with eng winning at Adelaide and the mcg . But really , i doubt eng can win more than 1 test .
You guys have more faith in vince and malan than you should , and more faith in your bowlers than you should . Also , you cant expect cook to have another summer of 10-11 again . Personally , i think you need root and bairstow ( and to a lesser degree , ali) to carry the bulk of the batting load . I just dont think they can do it for 5 tests .Lastly, cummins and starc will be more firepower then your batsmen are ever likely to encounter...and paired with quick , bouncy wickets...... you dont realise just how hostile it's going to be . There will be fear factor x 2 .
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #904 on: November 17, 2017, 12:30:18 AM »

Cook vs warner
stoneman vs Bancroft/Renshaw
Vince vs khawaja
root vs smith
malan vs Handscomb
bairstow vs Marsh
ali vs Paine
woakes vs Cummins
Overton vs starc
broad vs Hazlewood
anderson vs Lyon

Batting and bowling taken into consideration bold is winner on head to head in likely line ups, I have included Renshaw as I don’t think Bancroft will last the series


Malan over Handscomb.... not likely .
Anderson over Lyon ... not likely.
Broad over Hazlewood.....now you're just have a laugh , right ?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #905 on: November 17, 2017, 12:31:11 AM »


Duuuuuude !
How many times do you guys need to hear that handsomb and khawaja will make plenty of runs !
This outlandish predicting has forced my hand , so i will make my own outlandish predictions .....
3-1 oz - eng to win at Adelaide and rain to play a part in one draw .
If not , then the next most likely outcomes are 4-0 or 3-0 . Less likely, but possible 3-2 with eng winning at Adelaide and the mcg . But really , i doubt eng can win more than 1 test .
You guys have more faith in vince and malan than you should , and more faith in your bowlers than you should . Also , you cant expect cook to have another summer of 10-11 again . Personally , i think you need root and bairstow ( and to a lesser degree , ali) to carry the bulk of the batting load . I just dont think they can do it for 5 tests .Lastly, cummins and starc will be more firepower then your batsmen are ever likely to encounter...and paired with quick , bouncy wickets...... you dont realise just how hostile it's going to be . There will be fear factor x 2 .

As I said you really think your quicks will be fit for all the tests?

Fear is fine except when we all know they’ll break down at some point...

I admit I am probably being overly enthusiastic about our chances but Australia are no way as strong as they’re fans say, two decent batsman and a bowling attack which is injury prone, I can’t wait for aus to be 10/20!for two and smith under pressure with a moving ball!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #906 on: November 17, 2017, 12:32:43 AM »


Malan over Handscomb.... not likely .
Anderson over Lyon ... not likely.
Broad over Hazlewood.....now you're just have a laugh , right ?

Malan vs Handscomb likely
I can change to ali vs Lyon and have the same result and I’d take a 300+ Test wickets over Hazlewood any day if the week
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #907 on: November 17, 2017, 12:45:23 AM »

As I said you really think your quicks will be fit for all the tests?

Fear is fine except when we all know they’ll break down at some point...

I admit I am probably being overly enthusiastic about our chances but Australia are no way as strong as they’re fans say, two decent batsman and a bowling attack which is injury prone, I can’t wait for aus to be 10/20!for two and smith under pressure with a moving ball!



Your main mistake is thinking we only have two decent batsmen .
Also , starc and hazlewood will be fine . Cummins , who knows ....but starc and hazlewood with bird/sayers would be just fine by me . You guys have just as much to worry about re quick bowlers lasting the series . Broad is bowling slowly and looks tired . If anderson or woakes get injured you'll miss them more than if one of our bowlers goes down . And then what are you left with ? About as much as, or maybe less than , our reserve stocks .
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #908 on: November 17, 2017, 01:15:24 AM »

Be interesting, Anderson is an ordinary trundler here in Aus averaging nearly 40 and Broad very injury prone with only about 20 wickets at well over 30. Gut feeling is at home we should be way to good for England, hopefully it's some good hard competitive cricket.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #909 on: November 17, 2017, 03:15:22 AM »

Who?

Chadd Sayers is, statistically, the best domestic bowler in Australia over the last 18 months.
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« Reply #910 on: November 17, 2017, 03:33:29 AM »



Your main mistake is thinking we only have two decent batsmen .
Also , starc and hazlewood will be fine . Cummins , who knows ....but starc and hazlewood with bird/sayers would be just fine by me . You guys have just as much to worry about re quick bowlers lasting the series . Broad is bowling slowly and looks tired . If anderson or woakes get injured you'll miss them more than if one of our bowlers goes down . And then what are you left with ? About as much as, or maybe less than , our reserve stocks .

Pat Cummins has been poor so far this season and is notoriously brittle. Let's hope Sayers plays before he does.

@Biggie Smalls , what's the chances that Wade will now become a T20 mercenary on the world tour? Test career is cooked, unfavoured even in Tasmania apparently. Can't see him playing too many games for Clarence in Tassie.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #911 on: November 17, 2017, 05:06:29 AM »

Pat Cummins has been poor so far this season and is notoriously brittle. Let's hope Sayers plays before he does.

@Biggie Smalls , what's the chances that Wade will now become a T20 mercenary on the world tour? Test career is cooked, unfavoured even in Tasmania apparently. Can't see him playing too many games for Clarence in Tassie.


i can see him moving back to Melbourne hoping he can leapfrog seb gotch etc. you're probably right he could become a t20 gun for hire.....only problem is the gun is really firing atm ! he did concede if he didn't get picked for this test then his test career is over....that may make his decision easier too.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #912 on: November 17, 2017, 05:07:48 AM »

and yeah @Nmcgee if cummins goes down and sayers gets the nod it could be a blessing in disguise.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #913 on: November 17, 2017, 06:52:40 AM »

100 for malan too!
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« Reply #914 on: November 17, 2017, 06:55:40 AM »

Aussie members - what’s the reaction to Paine being selected?
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