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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2145 on: December 16, 2017, 07:05:03 AM »

Mitch Marsh is proving worth of his selection over Handscomb. 91 .. almost close to a century.
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« Reply #2146 on: December 16, 2017, 07:09:04 AM »

Marsh gets to his hundred in 130 balls. Very well played! Smith is chasing a double hundred now ...
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2147 on: December 16, 2017, 07:16:05 AM »

Well that's a depressing scorecard to wake up to.

Not sure I can be bothered switching on to watch
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« Reply #2148 on: December 16, 2017, 08:13:57 AM »

Mitch Marsh showed confidence and played positive cricket right from the start despite the entire country waiting for him to fail. Good on him. Great result.
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« Reply #2149 on: December 16, 2017, 08:24:33 AM »

You'll have done yourself a disservice if you decided not to watch these two today.
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« Reply #2150 on: December 16, 2017, 08:25:00 AM »

You got to hand it to the Aussie batsmen, this is a wonderful pitch with a glass outfield, when you get in go big, go massive.
100 is not enough when you get these kind of Conditions.

Well played Australia. Overton bowling with a cracked rib is a top effort.

Would like to see more of that attitude from other England players. It's tough,the bowlers can't penetrate but you have to keep going and try to make something happen.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2151 on: December 16, 2017, 08:38:43 AM »

When do we start saying bayliss has to go?

We keep questioning the players but surely the coaches are to blame too?

Why is ramprakash still batting coach

What is the bowling coach doing?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2152 on: December 16, 2017, 08:45:14 AM »

When do we start saying bayliss has to go?

We keep questioning the players but surely the coaches are to blame too?

Why is ramprakash still batting coach

What is the bowling coach doing?

These are the interesting questions for me... lets face it our batting hasn't been great for quite a while and if you look at Baylis' record is it actually that good?

If/when we lose this 5-0 are the ECB going to ask the questions about the staff? Cos the press are going to want some heads!

Side note.... when did Mitch Marsh get so good?
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« Reply #2153 on: December 16, 2017, 09:10:37 AM »

As much as it pains me to say this, Smith is unreal, at Test level no one even comes close to him, he hardly ever even gives a chance and, unlike Root, once he's in he really makes it count.
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« Reply #2154 on: December 16, 2017, 09:18:29 AM »

Gooch got booted after the last ashes tour and the bust up with KP....he was someone who knew how to bat in test matches, ramps is a superb technical batsman so must be able able to help with that side of it, but his test record everyone knows was poor.

Bowling wise Bond has gone back I think and Silverwood don't start till 2018. Interesting for me anyway reports Anderson and the bowling coaches had a bust up at Adelaide because England did not bowl the right length, Anderson seemed to pin some  of he blame on coaching advice. Well I sorry but with that many test wickets you should know what length to bowl.
I think you are barking up the wrong tree looking at coaching.

I would be looking at the captain, and asking whether we have hampered our best batsman.

Seriously.i wasn't convinced last year Root should be captain and I'm not convinced now.

Is it more important to the team  Root Is captain or get big big scores like smith, kholi,Williamson etc.

Because Root is right up there in that category....not as good as those 3 but not far off.



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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2155 on: December 16, 2017, 09:19:56 AM »

Mitch Marsh is in red-hot form. Anything bowled on the off-stump is flying straight to the boundary ropes between deep backward point and third man.

Smith and Marsh are dealing boundaries here. Marsh is 30 runs short of a double hundred now!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2156 on: December 16, 2017, 09:43:37 AM »

Oh dear! You know your bowling’s rubbish when Mitch marsh is getting runs.

Aussies showing how it’s done, get big runs and not throw it away
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2157 on: December 16, 2017, 09:44:47 AM »

Hope this serves as a wake up call to the ecb

Our openers need to be scoring big, as do the other so called batsmen on pitches like this.

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2158 on: December 16, 2017, 09:49:00 AM »

Gooch got booted after the last ashes tour and the bust up with KP....he was someone who knew how to bat in test matches, ramps is a superb technical batsman so must be able able to help with that side of it, but his test record everyone knows was poor.

Bowling wise Bond has gone back I think and Silverwood don't start till 2018. Interesting for me anyway reports Anderson and the bowling coaches had a bust up at Adelaide because England did not bowl the right length, Anderson seemed to pin some  of he blame on coaching advice. Well I sorry but with that many test wickets you should know what length to bowl.
I think you are barking up the wrong tree looking at coaching.

I would be looking at the captain, and asking whether we have hampered our best batsman.

Seriously.i wasn't convinced last year Root should be captain and I'm not convinced now.

Is it more important to the team  Root Is captain or get big big scores like smith, kholi,Williamson etc.

Because Root is right up there in that category....not as good as those 3 but not far off.

Agree 100%. I wasn't enamoured with the decision to give Root the captaincy at the time and he hasn't done much to convince me otherwise. Just let the kid bat.

Of course, then that begs the question of who would replace him. The only options I can see are Anderson and Broad
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2159 on: December 16, 2017, 09:55:14 AM »

Oh dear! You know your bowling’s rubbish when Mitch marsh is getting runs.

Aussies showing how it’s done, get big runs and not throw it away

Yep But the pitch as played its part surely Plunkett and Wood would have brought something different to Englands bowling.
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