Topic: Ashes 2017-18 (Read 407328 times)

six and out · « **Reply #2295 on:** December 19, 2017, 06:41:51 AM »

If we don't play Crane in the last 2 tests, you have to ask what was the point in taking him at all.

With possibily Overton and Broad injured and it obviously being a dead rubber it is an ideal scenario to get Crane in.

LateBloomer · « **Reply #2296 on:** December 19, 2017, 06:42:56 AM »

I will say this - Ive been in Australia a week now and it is noticeable that cricket means alot more to people in Australia than England. The average man, woman or child in Australia is alot more likely to have an interest in the sport. The players are bigger celebrities, feature in tv adverts, billboards etc. The country gets right behind their team - the media got stuck into England from the off as we know and there are support banners alongside roads, in towns and airports with the #beatengland

Outside a small niche of cricket fans in England no one really cares about cricket. Most of my mates wouldnt have a clue who Ali Cook or Joe Root were if they bumped into them in a pub! Steve Smith and David Warner by comparison are all over tv here and married to celebs/ex models (warner came 2nd to Sonny Bill) despite looking like extras from The Hills have Eyes and needing tutoring to be comfortable with joined up handwriting

Make what you want of that its just an observation. Ive been to India aswell and that is a whole different level of passion but Australia definitely care more than England

Quote from: Seniorplayer on December 18, 2017, 08:49:54 PM

Also bravehearts fighters guys who stand up make the most of what they have got take them every time

Like Paul Collingwood, the ultimate scrapper

Number4 · « **Reply #2297 on:** December 19, 2017, 07:52:18 AM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on December 18, 2017, 10:38:14 PM

England will not be competitive in an away ashes series until we discover 2 genuine 90mph bowlers fact. The Aussie conditions will never favour an attack of 80-85mph swing bowlers.
I�m not overly up on the County prospects but I�m not sure we have any in that bracket at all do we?? We see a few bowl 90mph odd for a few overs in T20 but not on a consistent basis. Add in the lack of a decent spinner be that holding or attacking and we will struggle to beat any top tier test side away from Home.

Last time we chucked our beat batsmen of my generation in KP under the bus for the performance in Aus and I honestly think we need to do the same with our bowlers. Broad is done for me as is Ali as a front line bowler, as a lower order bat maybe.

Cook for me is still one of the best opening batsmen in Test cricket although this has been a very poor series, dropping him after 150 tests based on 3 games and 6 innnings in silly talk in my humble opinion. Just as silly as this talk of taking the gloves away from Bairstow. We actually have Batting options and have seen Malan and Stoneman come good and Vince although not to the same degree so time to leave the batsmen alone after this series I think and fix what we have all known deep down is quite a weak bowling line up anywhere away from Blighty

I have no idea what he is like or have really seen anything of him but I heard a comment during the test match that Overton�s brother is a 150kph bowler... Anyone know anything of him? Is he any good?.. What about Wood?... It�s a pity Tymal Mills isn�t a left arm option

Byo · « **Reply #2298 on:** December 19, 2017, 08:22:13 AM »

Quote from: Number4 on December 19, 2017, 07:52:18 AM

I have no idea what he is like or have really seen anything of him but I heard a comment during the test match that Overton�s brother is a 150kph bowler... Anyone know anything of him? Is he any good?.. What about Wood?... It�s a pity Tymal Mills isn�t a left arm option

Jamie Overton is rapid but like anyone with pace these days is always injured and therefore not really a viable option.

Manormanic · « **Reply #2299 on:** December 19, 2017, 08:59:39 AM »

Looking ahead four years, we have contenders, but none who are ready right now.

Kulli · « **Reply #2300 on:** December 19, 2017, 09:23:04 AM »

Plenty of them also don't play much 4 days stuff as so much of it is played early doors, so in terms of results you're better picking your 38 year old line and length, hit the seam dobbler, than the tearaway 21 year old quick.

ppccopener · « **Reply #2301 on:** December 19, 2017, 09:52:10 AM »

Sussex have a quick of Barbadian origin with an English father

Where he is just sharp or genuinely quick I�m not sure.

northernboy1987 · « **Reply #2302 on:** December 19, 2017, 09:56:35 AM »

Quote from: ppccopener on December 19, 2017, 09:52:10 AM

Sussex have a quick of Barbadian origin with an English father

Where he is just sharp or genuinely quick I�m not sure.

Jofra Archer, haven't seen him play but rumor is he bowls gas.

Alvaro · « **Reply #2303 on:** December 19, 2017, 09:57:32 AM »

There was a great tweet about the leading bowlers in Aussie first class cricket over the last few years.

Most of them are medium fast. Draw your own conclusions.

Also, last time England had an express fast bowler in Australia it was Sajid Mahmood. That went well.

Number4 · « **Reply #2304 on:** December 19, 2017, 10:42:30 AM »

Quote from: Alvaro on December 19, 2017, 09:57:32 AM

There was a great tweet about the leading bowlers in Aussie first class cricket over the last few years.

Most of them are medium fast. Draw your own conclusions.

Also, last time England had an express fast bowler in Australia it was Sajid Mahmood. That went well.

One of Australia�s best in Glenn McGrath wasn�t rapid... Just bowled beautiful line and length... Australia have had plenty of good medium fast bowlers over the years.

I think the �England have no fast bowlers� is a poor excuse for, at times, very ordinary bowling... Even from the most experienced

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #2305 on:** December 19, 2017, 10:56:07 AM »

Quote from: northernboy1987 on December 19, 2017, 09:56:35 AM

Jofra Archer, haven't seen him play but rumor is he bowls gas.

I think i read somehwere he's playing in the BBL for hobart (possibly the bbl thread), be interesting to see if he is genuine fast.

he bats too!

Buzz · « **Reply #2306 on:** December 19, 2017, 11:06:15 AM »

Archer is sharp but mid to late 80s rather than 90+ every day

Kulli · « **Reply #2307 on:** December 19, 2017, 11:08:44 AM »

Can't we just feed out bowlers whatever it is they have been feeding Hazelwood, pretty sure he hasn't always been that quick? Has he been to Russia recently?

mo_town · « **Reply #2308 on:** December 19, 2017, 11:11:19 AM »

Wondering what England's approach will be in the next two tests with the series already lost..will they be willing to test the ones on the bench or will they be stubborn and stick to the side they have? Surely a couple of changes are needed atleast in the bowling department. For me, Broad and Moeen are just not good enough and dont deserve a place in the team.

Whats the general opinion on that?

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #2309 on:** December 19, 2017, 11:22:11 AM »

Quote from: ppccopener on December 19, 2017, 09:52:10 AM

Sussex have a quick of Barbadian origin with an English father

Where he is just sharp or genuinely quick I�m not sure.

Seen Archer a few times last I heard the windes were taking an interest in him.

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