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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2415 on: December 24, 2017, 04:30:44 AM »
Starc has been ruled out for boxing day test
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2416 on: December 24, 2017, 05:57:35 AM »
And Overton out
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2417 on: December 24, 2017, 06:10:16 AM »
And Smith in doubt after he got hit on the right hand from a Brancroft shot in the nets that ricocheted and hit him
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2418 on: December 24, 2017, 07:06:24 AM »
Really don't understand why the ECB didn't add Liam Dawson to the touring party once it was clearly evident that Moeen Ali was bowling dross. Dawson, obviously, isn't a world beater but a slow arm option would be good against these Aussies considering their struggles with Rangana Herath and Ravindra Jadeja.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2419 on: December 24, 2017, 10:04:46 AM »
Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on December 24, 2017, 07:06:24 AM
Really don't understand why the ECB didn't add Liam Dawson to the touring party once it was clearly evident that Moeen Ali was bowling dross. Dawson, obviously, isn't a world beater but a slow arm option would be good against these Aussies considering their struggles with Rangana Herath and Ravindra Jadeja.
Agree slow left arm
would have brought in a different angle but the selectors probably think Dawson's  had enough opportunities nor could they  have predicted moeens poor form and finger injury.
A better option on Aus tracks  would be fast left arm spin
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2420 on: December 24, 2017, 10:17:20 AM »
Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on December 24, 2017, 07:06:24 AM
Really don't understand why the ECB didn't add Liam Dawson to the touring party once it was clearly evident that Moeen Ali was bowling dross. Dawson, obviously, isn't a world beater but a slow arm option would be good against these Aussies considering their struggles with Rangana Herath and Ravindra Jadeja.

These are 2 top class bowlers you are talking about here. I understand your way of thinking but to compare Dawson against these 2 is a bit off the mark

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2421 on: December 24, 2017, 10:58:42 AM »
Quote from: Number4 on December 24, 2017, 10:17:20 AM
These are 2 top class bowlers you are talking about here. I understand your way of thinking but to compare Dawson against these 2 is a bit off the mark
Naturally Dawson isn't Herath nor Jadeja, but it's about mental disintegration. Aside from Steven Smith, lets be frank, Australia are rather uninspiring against spin. And as Moeen Ali displayed in the summer, he feasted off the mental disintegration R Ashwin put on the South Africans.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2422 on: December 24, 2017, 11:18:11 AM »
Why wouldn’t you just play Mason Crane then?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2423 on: December 24, 2017, 12:32:38 PM »
I'm not sure about mental disintegration but a left arm spinner in the original touring squad would at least of been some change from the right arm over medium England have. Dawson didn't do great in the summer but he is a decent player .

If Crane does not play tommorow you got to ask why he is in the squad-it would of been a wasted place if not.

On a different note for us bat nerds, Stoneman, I've just read, is not fussy about his bats, used a brand new one in the last match and has 7 bats on tour with him.

He says he picks any bat up and if it feels right in the hands then it will be right.

Is there a lesson for us clubbies here, there's many threads on grains, two tone willow,and different shapes...grade one plus wood etc...

Seems a simple way of choosing a bat to me, and if it's good enough for him ?

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2424 on: December 24, 2017, 12:46:17 PM »
Regarding Stonemans bats... How many has he broken this series so far? 🏏🤪
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2425 on: December 24, 2017, 01:00:24 PM »
Quote from: Number4 on December 24, 2017, 11:18:11 AM
Why wouldn’t you just play Mason Crane then?

Because Newberys are never seen in Australia?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2426 on: December 24, 2017, 01:02:50 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on December 24, 2017, 01:00:24 PM
Because Newberys are never seen in Australia?

Ummmm 🙄🙄🙄
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2427 on: December 24, 2017, 01:36:41 PM »
Quote from: Number4 on December 24, 2017, 12:46:17 PM
Regarding Stonemans bats... How many has he broken this series so far? 🏏🤪

A couple and a rehandle from the last match as that got broken.

If you bat against a new ball on hard tracks against quicks bats get damaged.

I'd be a lot happier if our top 6 had all had damaged or broken bats, it means we would of spent more time at the crease.

 

You never played a club match your mate turns up with a 600 quid salix/Newbery/millichamp and then says he is batting 7 to avoid the new ball?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2428 on: December 24, 2017, 02:24:05 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on December 24, 2017, 01:36:41 PM
A couple and a rehandle from the last match as that got broken.

If you bat against a new ball on hard tracks against quicks bats get damaged.

I'd be a lot happier if our top 6 had all had damaged or broken bats, it means we would of spent more time at the crease.

 

You never played a club match your mate turns up with a 600 quid salix/Newbery/millichamp and then says he is batting 7 to avoid the new ball?
 :)

Is that the same club mate that then proceeds to try and whack ever single delivery out the park with said new bat and then complains they’ve broken the toe??
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
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