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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2895 on: January 08, 2018, 12:30:56 AM »

Hope Root is on the mend quickly, having had 42 on saturday in melbourne, and having my whole league called off, its easy to find yourself very sick very quickly if you are spending prolonged amounts of time in the sun. It would be silly if he came out to bat today, hopefully he recognises that his health and wellbeing is more important than pride.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2896 on: January 08, 2018, 12:42:55 AM »

Lyon polished off Moeen for the seventh time in the series, should be the end of Moeen's Test career. Luxury player whom s now no more than a passenger. Get Adil or Leach in to bowl some proper spin. None of this dross Moeen or Crane served up
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« Reply #2897 on: January 08, 2018, 12:50:08 AM »

Joe Root passes fifty for the fiftieth time in his Test career. He is the fiftieth man to achieve this.
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« Reply #2898 on: January 08, 2018, 01:05:44 AM »

Michael Vaughan on commentary..

"I like that from Root"....."I don't like that from Root"…...

Such intellectual commentary, urgh this series by BT has only proved to me they can't do it like Sky. Commentary team is horrendous, constant Betting advertisements all compounded by Matt Smith who is utterly clueless about Cricket as a sport.

For one I can't wait till Ather's, Mikey and Bumble are back.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2899 on: January 08, 2018, 01:39:39 AM »

The penny has finally dropped this tour for root and Bairstow.. even ali pretended to be a batsmen for a little while before being made to look a fool.. hopefully it’s the end of your test career son.

Good session, keep fighting hard.. proper batting here, use up balls, tire the bowlers.. I bet englsnd won’t learn from this but this is what the top three should be doing game in game out. Make oppos work really really hard
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« Reply #2900 on: January 08, 2018, 02:33:32 AM »

The penny has finally dropped this tour for root and Bairstow.. even ali pretended to be a batsmen for a little while before being made to look a fool.. hopefully it’s the end of your test career son.

Good session, keep fighting hard.. proper batting here, use up balls, tire the bowlers.. I bet englsnd won’t learn from this but this is what the top three should be doing game in game out. Make oppos work really really hard

Perhaps if you'd have worked really really hard you might have a chance of using your expertise in the international game instead of in the village cricket arena where you send the youth team in when the opposition is nasty to you. I hate to imagine what you'd do with Hazlewood and Starc snarling at you. Take out an injunction perhaps

I agree that England have been poor but these are professional players - dont pretend you know how to do their job better than them - if you did you would be doing it
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2901 on: January 08, 2018, 03:29:53 AM »

Excellent test series. lots of...

Just kidding. Another series where the home team wallops the tourists.

Root failed to fire in Australia (not counting gastro). 

I can't believe the Marsh brothers turnaround and would love to see some pitches that actually have movement in the movement. The bang it in short tactic worked and decided the series. England had no firepower in that department and this is why South Africa to better in Australia.

Great to have the Balmy Army over providing excitement to an otherwise one-sided contest.

Love the Ashes overall and really looking forward to seeing the home team win the next series.

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2902 on: January 08, 2018, 04:06:15 AM »

Good  bye ashes thread . I really enjoyed it while it lasted . See you in 2 years time .
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2903 on: January 08, 2018, 08:46:04 AM »

Perhaps if you'd have worked really really hard you might have a chance of using your expertise in the international game instead of in the village cricket arena where you send the youth team in when the opposition is nasty to you. I hate to imagine what you'd do with Hazlewood and Starc snarling at you. Take out an injunction perhaps

I agree that England have been poor but these are professional players - dont pretend you know how to do their job better than them - if you did you would be doing it

Been to plenty of places where I’ve seen mates killed. There is a big difference between that real stuff and people being goby on a sports field fella. Still, if it makes you feel better sure.. I’d run away

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2904 on: January 08, 2018, 09:25:23 AM »

So - England squad, of those who played, who came out in; debit, credit, neutral?

Cook - debit
Stoneman - debit
Vince - debit
Root - Credit
Malan - Credit
Bairstow - Credit
Ali - debit
Woakes - debit
Overton - Credit
Curran - debit
Broad - debit
Anderson - Credit
Crane - Neutral
Ball - debit

Not pretty reading is it? 5 players in credit, and out of those 2 or 3 are borderline. Feels like a few 'names' went missing in Australia.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2905 on: January 08, 2018, 09:33:00 AM »

Congratulations Australia. I don't think there was too much of a gap in the talent between the two sides, but your bowling attack was superb and stayed fit.

The real difference for me, however, is that you were clinical. You stayed in and ground out runs when you needed to, and you bowled dry when you need to.

That's the big difference and something we desperately need to address.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2906 on: January 08, 2018, 09:59:18 AM »

Curran I would say is neutral rather than in debit @FattusCattus and Crane's 1-200 are crap figures however you look at it...
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2907 on: January 08, 2018, 10:11:01 AM »

I would say Curran would be behind Overton in impressing with his bowling, but I'm willing to consider neutral - he didn't do much wrong.

You're judging Crane on a single bowl on a featherbed against the whole series that Ali got?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2908 on: January 08, 2018, 10:12:08 AM »

Agree would have Crane borderline Debit and Cook for that one innings  borderline neutral.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2909 on: January 08, 2018, 10:18:56 AM »

Do you feel the Woakes assessment is fair @Seniorplayer ?
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