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Re: Bat Making
« Reply #60 on: October 13, 2011, 09:38:30 AM »

Does that mean on every bat or can the manufacturer register the bat design somewhere, designating it Type A so not needing the sticker?
Every single bat has to have a sticker.

Simmy - the Grade A is required to confirm that the brand is happy that the bat is within the laws and guidelines (e.g. no lams!!) I used to think (before the forum) that it was to do with the grade of willow!!! But you live and learn.....slowly in my case!  ;)
Yes, calling it Grade was a bad move by the MCC. They have since renamed it to Type. 
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Re: Bat Making
« Reply #61 on: October 13, 2011, 10:29:41 AM »

Simmy - the Grade A is required to confirm that the brand is happy that the bat is within the laws and guidelines (e.g. no lams!!) I used to think (before the forum) that it was to do with the grade of willow!!! But you live and learn.....slowly in my case!  ;)

And a handy identifier of a clueless seller or a rubbish bat (if they start their ad with "Certified Grade A Quality...")  ;)
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Re: Bat Making
« Reply #62 on: October 13, 2011, 10:46:51 AM »

well you learn something new everyday!
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Re: Bat Making
« Reply #63 on: March 10, 2012, 04:11:30 PM »

A massive dump of photos form 2 bats I've made recently.



This has been a stop start bat making adventure this time. The aim was a 2.9 mid to low middled bat. I think this fits the bill but then again I have little experience of making bats at this weight. I was desperate not to rush this and have spent a considerable amount of time on it. It's a good job I don't charge by the hour.


Here are some photos of the process, I tried to take a picture every time I thought the shape had changed significantly.


Some delicious willow shaving shots to start us off...






Anyway, moving on.


Here's how the edges started. I marked out two lines on each side neither of which ended up being the edge profile but it provided a starting point and target.




Some marks began to appear as I removed some willow. At this point I was hoping they weren't going to get worse and as I dug deeper it became apparent they would disappear.



Still over 3lbs in the photo below, but slowly a shape is appearing, You can just see I've gone down to the first edge line and have left the second intact.



Now I began to relax as the marks on the back start to come to the surface meaning they should disappear. I actually like these kind of things in bats, they add rustic character.



Gone down to the second edge line now.





Almost gone, looking cleaner with every misplaced gouge of my drawknife.





As I move away from the drawknife to other tools, some lovely figuring in the willow begins to appear.




All bar some fine tuning and finishing, this one is almost done.






Some final finishing and a grip to go before it's complete but here it is.






Needs a little bit more work but, I'm fairly chuffed with this one.



The heavy cleft and how it turned out:

Here it is bound and gripped. I can honestly say that whilst this bat has come out looking nice and responsive, it was one of the hardest clefts I've ever tried to work with. The weight barely changed as I stripped away more and more willow, only when I got deeper into the cleft did the weight start to change significantly. I can only guess that this was just a heavy cleft, but a fantastic learning experience. It now sits proudly a 3lbs 0.2oz, not huge for the weight but certainly balanced. I'd recommend to anyone to try making a bat out of a heavier cleft, you learn so much more about effectively using the resources you have available to you. Making a "Big Bat" went out the window early on during this one.


This may sound strange but it's almost like there's a bat shape hidden inside each cleft that the bat maker just finds rather than makes. I always get the impression that the cleft is encouraging me to make a certain profile. If I'd tried making a 3lb Solution shape with this cleft it would have been a true disaster. However I'm open to opinion on this idea.



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Re: Bat Making
« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2012, 12:15:34 PM »

Well, the repair of my own bat has taken a back seat as I've now begun another bat for someone from Australia. After quite a few emails back and forth, we settled on a suitable cleft and today I took the first tentative strokes with the drawknife.

The cleft is beautiful, and I'm quietly confident at this stage it'll make a nice bat. Having said that, there's a long way to go, and as always there will be bumps in the road.


Not a blemish in sight




Now this cleft weighs in a 3lbs 11.4 oz. The request from the customer was for 2.11 in the shape of a Hunts County Edge copy that I'd made a good few months ago.




Now I'm always up for the challenge of making bats from heavy clefts as it's a real test of your skills and a great way to learn how to get more from less. It'd be a lot easier to shape a bat if the cleft started off at around 3 ounces above the desired weight, but life isn't that convenient.

Something important I've learnt today is that my bench moves, It's pretty substantial in weight but it's not perfect and the floor is stone. I made the bench, but as many people know, you need a bench to make a bench. As a result the joints aren't perfect and the top's not flat but adding some cross braces and sand bags should remedy this until I no doubt decide to build a super Roubo/Holtzapffel workbench (Bitten by the hand tool bug, Thanks Christopher Schwarz).

Another thing is that I'm not keen on my drawknife. It's a Arno French pattern model, that takes a good edge and cuts superbly. You'll be saying "What's the problem then?"

The bevel angle, it's too steep for my tastes. A drawknife usually requires some force to get it going, it is after all just a large knife that you're pulling through the wood, but I can't get on with the feel of this one. Perhaps someone else's cup of tea.
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Re: Bat Making
« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2012, 12:18:27 PM »

Flamboyance can have consequences...

It's mid March and the weather seems to be getting warmer, or I'm getting used to the cold, and winter nets is now very much underway. The first net is always an eye opener. A winter of listening to the BBC's splendid Test Match commentary gives you delusions of grandeur. You stride into the nets with the confident swagger of Viv Richards, take guard with the poise and precision of Jonathan Trott, and stare the bowler down...      he knows what's coming, an onslaught!

The bowler runs in... you lift your bat... the ball is released... THEN?

You don't move your feet, you miss the ball by a considerable margin and you're only explanation for what's happened is that it must have moved square, swung a mile and the pitch is making the ball do all sorts of ungentlemanly things.

The reality is that my cover drive doesn't look like Kumar Sangakarra's, I don't pull like Ricky Ponting and I have no idea how Viv Richards used to walk across his stumps and smash it over mid wicket. My philosophy is that "a leave is a wasted opportunity to score".

Despite this, we all want to play some outrageous shots in the nets. We now have an example of one of those flamboyant strokes that if pulled of makes us look dismissive and arrogant. Conversely, it can make us look like a fool.

This bat has, in part, succumbed to one of those shots.

A slightly mis timed flick of the ball had smashed into the back of the edge. Now unfortunately, Willow is  a naturally soft timber and the only reason it stands up to the punishment of a cricket ball is because it's pressed using one of these...


They look a little bit more modern nowadays, but essentially they serve the same purpose

This machine compresses the fibres of the face and edges but doesn't make much difference to where this ball hit.

Please bare in mind that I forgot to take a photograph before I repaired it. All the wood that's glued down in the first two photos was blown out the back. The fibres had been crushed together quite badly and it became apparent the repair was essentially going to be cosmetic. I picked out as much wood as I could to allow the glue to have something to stick to, in the end it looks considerably better than when it came to me.




The splits show where the wood was poking out the back



Glue and sandpaper are your best friends



GONE!

Whilst the chosen shot was no doubt the main reason this happened, undeniably a factor that contributed was the rock hard bat breaker of a cricket ball. Every club has someone who turns up with a new ball at nets, sometimes it's a good quality ball that will age beautifully and last a season if cared for. The other type of new ball you see are up there with Diamond on the Mohs Scale, they have been dipped in lacquer and baked in the oven at 4000ºC!!!

I don't begrudge anyone bowling with a shiny new ball, after all no one likes bowling with the tatty sponge that floats around at the bottom of the bag of practice balls. I do dislike someone hurling a 5.5 ounce concrete sphere at my pride and joy. No! Not that pride and joy... the one in my hands... No wait, that came out wrong... you know what I mean.

To those of you who own these "bat breakers", bat makers around the world want to tell you off. Or give you a better ball, actually we'll do that instead cause we can be guaranteed they'll be destroyed, never to be unleashed at someone else's pride and joy.
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Re: Bat Making
« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2012, 12:26:43 PM »

Well very impressed with the efforts, both shaping and photography.

What weight was the cleft to start with?, the lowest I've seen for a shouldered and toe'd one is 3.1, normal would be 3.8.
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Re: Bat Making
« Reply #67 on: March 16, 2012, 12:34:22 PM »

Well very impressed with the efforts, both shaping and photography.

What weight was the cleft to start with?, the lowest I've seen for a shouldered and toe'd one is 3.1, normal would be 3.8.

Thanks, very kind of you to say.

Which bat are you referring to?
The cleft for the 2.9 bat, was 3.9 when it came to me.
The cleft for the 3lbs bat was 3.13 when it came to me.
The cleft for the 2.11 bat going to australia was 3.11 when it came to me.

Does that make sense or help to answer your question?
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Re: Bat Making
« Reply #68 on: March 16, 2012, 12:37:53 PM »

It does, but were the clefts shaped big or simply just pulled down at the shoulder and toe?
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Re: Bat Making
« Reply #69 on: March 16, 2012, 12:42:10 PM »

Okay, they had a small amount of willow removed from the toe. Here's a picture of the profile of the clefts as they came to me. Is that of any use?

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Re: Bat Making
« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2012, 12:42:16 PM »

Beautiful pictures and lovely finished article.

It does gives an insight on your personality.

You take your time and give all the attention and have loads of patience required for such creation.
Whether it is the finished bat or the photos or even the content on this post.

All the best and keep up this intensity.
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Re: Bat Making
« Reply #71 on: March 16, 2012, 12:47:40 PM »

Beautiful pictures and lovely finished article.

It does gives an insight on your personality.

You take your time and give all the attention and have loads of patience required for such creation.
Whether it is the finished bat or the photos or even the content on this post.

All the best and keep up this intensity.

Thanks, I'm trying to put out as much as I can for people to enjoy. It's good to document it for myself and others, people can take it or leave it but at least it's out there.

I try to remember to take photos as much as I can. I have so many on my computer that never get posted. on here or the blog.
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Re: Bat Making
« Reply #72 on: March 16, 2012, 12:52:27 PM »

No that is how I thought they would be, top job as full shaping needs a good eye, I found the shapes similar to SAF, Norbs would be proud.
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Re: Bat Making
« Reply #73 on: March 16, 2012, 12:53:32 PM »

Beachy is mine next ;)
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Re: Bat Making
« Reply #74 on: March 16, 2012, 01:05:48 PM »

If Sir Buzz is reading this please correct me but that 3lb bat looks like your kinda shape.

Beach, I love this page so much, echoing what others have said, your detail, photography and dedication is brilliant as well as being awesome at shaping bats. That Edge shape is a lovely profile and the finishing is top notch.
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