Topic: Visit to Kippax 24/11/17 (Read 16573 times)

Kippax · « **Reply #30 on:** November 27, 2017, 01:18:02 PM »

yes that was just a general answer to everyone. we sell clefts on looks to other company's we also grade in that style we have lots of grade one bats in our showroom we dont force anyone to buy bats or tell them what to they should buy either.

Andythomo21 · « **Reply #31 on:** November 27, 2017, 01:20:19 PM »

Quote from: Kippax on November 27, 2017, 01:18:02 PM

yes that was just a general answer to everyone. we sell clefts on looks to other company's we also grade in that style we have lots of grade one bats in our showroom we dont force anyone to buy bats or tell them what to they should buy either.

That's fine @Kippax thanks.

The Colossus I handpicked for myself and used for 2 seasons had a clean face and a butterfly stain on the back. I selected it on initial pickup and performance off the mallet.

I also have a Problade on order, although not for myself, for a teammate. He's not a forum member so will probably be expecting a nice looker!

Kippax · « **Reply #32 on:** November 27, 2017, 01:23:09 PM »

lots of our pros are going for bats with knots,heartwood,butterfly,bair stain because they want something that will help them score runs and not so fussed on looks but i understand �350 is a lot to customers buying bats so its there choice and opinion what they choose thats why we have lots of grade one clean bats in our showroom also

Cow_corner · « **Reply #33 on:** November 27, 2017, 01:32:13 PM »

Remember a �350 sub continent made bat, supports large profit margins because of poverty level labour rates. You buy what you like, if you don�t like the price, don�t buy. My �350 would go to one of the forum sponsors or a UK maker be it Kippax G&M or H4L to name a few.

GoodLeave · « **Reply #34 on:** November 27, 2017, 01:33:28 PM »

I'm firmly in the "�350 = Sapwood/10 grain minimum" camp.

But I can see someone less vain than myself being completely sold on a butterfly that pings better than the pageant winner. I wish I could bring myself to do it, alas I can't.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #35 on:** November 27, 2017, 02:11:59 PM »

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the best looking bats or grade one willow is not always the best performing bat, we dont advertise or sell bar stain or butterfly bats we just make some as a option for customers visiting our factory because in our opinion we find that the not so good looking bats ie butterfly stain bats tend to perform better than bats with 10+ grains.

Now this is very interesting!

Churchy1989 · « **Reply #36 on:** November 27, 2017, 02:59:42 PM »

I don't really understand some of the comments being made.

Kippax clearly say they rate their clefts on performance, they have an abundance of bats for people to select one they think looks the best.

But would you pay �350 (�250 in the sale) for a bat that was really responsive but looked like a pig, or �350 (�250 in the sale) for a lovely 22 straight grain sapwood that vibrates up the handle and a middle the size of a 5p piece?

I understand you want something pretty for your hard earned cash, but maybe we are missing a trick....

Biggie Smalls · « **Reply #37 on:** November 27, 2017, 03:10:11 PM »

I just dont understand how one can grade by performance when there's only one grade . It's like 'everyone gets a trophy day' . I'm happy to concede grading by performance over looks , if that's what a batmaker or customer wants then that's fine , I just don't see there being any grading done per se . Am I missing something/am I wrong about this ?

Rob580 · « **Reply #38 on:** November 27, 2017, 03:24:49 PM »

The way I read it is, we grade all our bats the same, as some will look better than others and some might perform better than others.

Then you turn up, pick whichever one is your favourite, pay your money then ride off into the sunset...

Grading is so subjective and ridiculous, this at this seems like a pretty decent way of doing it.

I'll go and get my hard hat ready to be shouted down!

tushar sehgal · « **Reply #39 on:** November 27, 2017, 03:39:10 PM »

I hope, in future, none of you complain about a 350 GBP bat that performs but looks ugly

Kippax · « **Reply #40 on:** November 27, 2017, 03:54:50 PM »

how ever you look at it someone is always going to have a different opinion the name of our bats are pro blade player edition and colossus player edition we make bats that we think are good enough for professional players how ever we still have bats that are cosmetically good with plenty of grains just everyone has different preferences.

JK Lewis · « **Reply #41 on:** November 27, 2017, 04:23:16 PM »

Interesting discussion this one. What happens to bats you make that do not meet the expectations of your 'Pro Grade'? I mean, are you able to judge performance from cleft stage, and sell the other clefts to other makers? Or do bats get made, and rejected when they don't perform?

Northern monkey · « **Reply #42 on:** November 27, 2017, 04:30:58 PM »

Very interesting this one

Performance is very subjective.
I'm sure, and I could be wrong, ace used to grade on performance too
Two bats only, two prices, grade one and two.
If they said it was a grade one, it was as sure as anything gonna perform.

If it's left this way, it sure makes bat buying a lot easier, and I don't have a problem with the price.
BUT,,,,they better be the best performing bats available at that price point

Kippax · « **Reply #43 on:** November 27, 2017, 04:51:34 PM »

when they are in cleft form you can not really tell performance only looks. you can tell more after the bat is pressed, this is the most important part of getting the best preforming bats and every company do this different.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #44 on:** November 27, 2017, 04:59:17 PM »

Quote from: Kippax on November 27, 2017, 04:51:34 PM

when they are in cleft form you can not really tell performance only looks. you can tell more after the bat is pressed, this is the most important part of getting the best preforming bats and every company do this different.

Do you think it is possible that the bigger manufacturers press the good looking clefts to perform better? By which I mean, to justify their pricing?

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