Topic: Counterbalances (Read 7010 times)

JB · « **Reply #15 on:** February 19, 2018, 12:59:32 PM »

I put a couple of strips of cut grip on the top of the handle as i like to rest my top hand against it. If the top of the handle is too thin I feel like its going to fly out of my hand

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #16 on:** February 19, 2018, 01:00:20 PM »

Always thought if you had old fashioned balance kitchen scales with weights and increased the number of weights on one side it tips the balance point used to think the same with cricket bats

The Doctor · « **Reply #17 on:** February 19, 2018, 01:02:55 PM »

Quote from: Kulli on February 19, 2018, 12:52:07 PM

Interesting, thanks for the reply.

Next question, have you come up with a way to measure the difference between scale weight and pick up, I'm sick of reading for sale posts where a 3lbs 15oz bat picks up like 2'7.

Yes ;-)

Kulli · « **Reply #18 on:** February 19, 2018, 01:05:49 PM »

Quote from: JB on February 19, 2018, 12:59:32 PM

I put a couple of strips of cut grip on the top of the handle as i like to rest my top hand against it. If the top of the handle is too thin I feel like its going to fly out of my hand

Maybe this is part of it, I like the bottom hand to be normal sized and a bit oval, but I like the top hand to be mega skinny.

jonazax1717 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 19, 2018, 01:47:57 PM »

just seen these guys on Instagram , no idea if it works but looks a great invention for counterbalance
https://www.instagram.com/probalancecricket/
any used this in NZ ?
tempted to order a few

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 19, 2018, 02:13:09 PM »

I have one bat my Newbery Pro that was made by TK for a county pro and it has a large counter balance and picks up very well does feel a few oz lighter than dead weight but I can't say that it's any better than my other bats that don't have a counter balance so would say it's a mental thing personally

InternalTraining · « **Reply #21 on:** February 19, 2018, 02:42:40 PM »

1. I like my bat length to be a size-6 bat (which I hold from the top of the handle). A rolled-up second grip, marks the spot where the SH bat length is size-6.
2. For my top hand, left, I like the handle to be thicker than the bottom. A rolled-up second grip for the top half of the handle achieve that for me. For my bottom hand (near the neck of the bat), right, I just pinch the handle so I prefer it to be thinner than the top part.
3. This setup, adds bat speed for bats that are bottom heavy and have a mid-low sweet spot. Any bat, like Amplus, which has a high sweet, this setup affects my timing. So, I don't use the rolled-up second grip for my high middle bats.

Kulli · « **Reply #22 on:** February 19, 2018, 02:54:55 PM »

Overall I think we need a new name for just whacking a grip locator on your bat to avoid confusion.

pablomarmite · « **Reply #23 on:** February 19, 2018, 03:15:44 PM »

I place half a grip donut style at very top. Starting doing this as had a counterbalance style handle and got into habit of resting top hand on it. Previously when I held bat at bottom of handle I used to cut top of handle off as it bruised my arm.

Silver Bullet · « **Reply #24 on:** February 26, 2018, 02:35:11 AM »

This conversation is based off of a faulty premise. A counter balance absolutely helps and I am a big fan of them since I started using the Merlin. Have them on all my bats now. It definitely does NOT help the pick up. But have any of you measured your bat speeds with and without a counter balance.

I�ve tried range hitting with one, and without one. The difference is night and day.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #25 on:** February 26, 2018, 03:19:16 AM »

Quote from: Silver Bullet on February 26, 2018, 02:35:11 AM

This conversation is based off of a faulty premise. A counter balance absolutely helps and I am a big fan of them since I started using the Merlin. Have them on all my bats now. It definitely does NOT help the pick up. But have any of you measured your bat speeds with and without a counter balance.

I�ve tried range hitting with one, and without one. The difference is night and day.

I have had the same experience but with only certain types of bats - mid-low/duck bill shaped bats. With high middle bats, XP80 or Amplus, it messes up my timing completely. I suspect, the high-middle bats are moving too fast since the added weight moves the balance-point of a bat further up (towards the handle).

Kulli · « **Reply #26 on:** February 26, 2018, 07:58:35 AM »

Quote from: Silver Bullet on February 26, 2018, 02:35:11 AM

This conversation is based off of a faulty premise. A counter balance absolutely helps and I am a big fan of them since I started using the Merlin. Have them on all my bats now. It definitely does NOT help the pick up. But have any of you measured your bat speeds with and without a counter balance.

I�ve tried range hitting with one, and without one. The difference is night and day.

And the explanation for this is?

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #27 on:** February 26, 2018, 09:31:53 AM »

Quote from: Silver Bullet on February 26, 2018, 02:35:11 AM

This conversation is based off of a faulty premise. A counter balance absolutely helps and I am a big fan of them since I started using the Merlin. Have them on all my bats now. It definitely does NOT help the pick up. But have any of you measured your bat speeds with and without a counter balance.

I�ve tried range hitting with one, and without one. The difference is night and day.

If the counter balance doesn't assist the pickup what are you saying it helps with ?

Kez · « **Reply #28 on:** February 26, 2018, 11:07:32 AM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on February 26, 2018, 03:19:16 AM

I have had the same experience but with only certain types of bats - mid-low/duck bill shaped bats. With high middle bats, XP80 or Amplus, it messes up my timing completely. I suspect, the high-middle bats are moving too fast since the added weight moves the balance-point of a bat further up (towards the handle).

The wonders of the Placebo effect!

Silver Bullet · « **Reply #29 on:** February 26, 2018, 12:20:36 PM »

Sorry, but to me, it�s not in the mind. I�ve tried hundreds of shots on the ground with and without a counter balance. I get considerably more distance with a counterbalance, on the same bat. My guess is that the downswing is significantly larger on drives and full blown hoicks than it is in a stationary pick up situation i.e. the effects generated accumulate over a longer downswing.

Anyway, we seem to be basing this entire question on hypotheticals - my question is simple, has anyone actually measured thier bat speed with one. It�d be a very easy way of proving the theory.

Poll

Why do you add a 'counterbalance' to your bats?

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