Topic: Sa vs aus (Read 106847 times)

golders · « **Reply #330 on:** March 24, 2018, 08:26:48 PM »

Can't see how Smith can continue as Captain after this.Surely New Balance will drop a cheat? They acted pretty quickly with another Marquee player...

I hope the idiots get long bans. With the scrutiny and coverage these days,they weren't going to get away with it! Pure stupidity and really sad

jamielsn15 · « **Reply #331 on:** March 24, 2018, 08:28:13 PM »

I really struggle with the thought processes and series of events that lead to taking it out on the field and actually doing that.

At any point from thinking up the idea, to sharing it, to sharing it more widely, to how do we do this, to here's thenplan, to can we get away with this, to actually doing it, does one of the number of colluders not say "look fellas, this ain't right"? Maybe I'm naive and this does happen all the time, but with the amount if TV cameras about I'm not so sure that it does.

It's just really disappointing. And for the record I'm old enough to remember Atherton doing it and Richie Benaud on commentary saying famously "steady on!" I was amazed then. Smith will carry this around for his career and beyond...

csnew · « **Reply #332 on:** March 24, 2018, 08:32:11 PM »

A bit like spot fixing, it makes you question whether what you are watching is skill or just tampering. Was the Aussies in the first test reversing it a mile skill or sandpaper?? I think the latter now

I have no doubt host broadcasters choose not to show the home sides ball tampering - another issue. How many times does it actually happen

ppccopener · « **Reply #333 on:** March 24, 2018, 08:39:56 PM »

Surely there is no one on here who has watched the link to that press conference is in any doubt Bancroft has been set up and carried under the bus by the 'management group'

He was 'incredibly nervous about doing it' and 'heard the management group talking about it and was in the vicinity'

In other words he was not part of the decision and told to do it

Jesus I actually feel sorry for him.

It's beyond belief

Alvaro · « **Reply #334 on:** March 24, 2018, 08:45:51 PM »

Ah hubris

ppccopener · « **Reply #335 on:** March 24, 2018, 08:46:49 PM »

Quote from: jamielsn15 on March 24, 2018, 08:28:13 PM

I really struggle with the thought processes and series of events that lead to taking it out on the field and actually doing that.

At any point from thinking up the idea, to sharing it, to sharing it more widely, to how do we do this, to here's thenplan, to can we get away with this, to actually doing it, does one of the number of colluders not say "look fellas, this ain't right"? Maybe I'm naive and this does happen all the time, but with the amount if TV cameras about I'm not so sure that it does.

It's just really disappointing. And for the record I'm old enough to remember Atherton doing it and Richie Benaud on commentary saying famously "steady on!" I was amazed then. Smith will carry this around for his career and beyond...

Exactly, so the only logical conclusion you could reach is this one, as @RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie has mentioned

Because they have done it before and the cameras have not picked it up they did it again.on this basis they did not get caught previously.

I staggered by the stupidity of it as well.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #336 on:** March 24, 2018, 08:47:52 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on March 24, 2018, 08:07:46 PM

I don't know an incident in India myself or of any press articles.Personally I don't recall ever seeing anything quite so blatant and I've been watching a long time.

I disagree with your outcome,I think they will get the book thrown at them.

And I would think the same if it was England.

What does Faf de plesis think of this?? He got charged for having a sweet in his mouth correct? and Kholi a similar charge.

Saliva from a sweet is allowed(correct me if I'm wrong please) taking a DIY kit to the ball and sandpapering it is not.

The Asian countries that control cricket will want the Aussies nailed.

I wold expect root and the coach to resign and get banned if this was England, Smith and Lehmann are cheats, blatant cheats.

No you�re not allowed to use sweets !! Hence jelly baby gate etc etc

Players do it because no one stamps it out and we laugh it off as �part of the game�

billyb · « **Reply #337 on:** March 24, 2018, 08:50:12 PM »

If one thing positive has come from this... I've beaten my highest score in actual cricket on twitter

GoodLeave · « **Reply #338 on:** March 24, 2018, 08:53:29 PM »

Imagine.

Being the best in the world at something, being very wealthy and having the best job in the world.

Then pulling a stunt like this.

Baffling.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #339 on:** March 24, 2018, 08:54:21 PM »

Quote from: GoodLeave on March 24, 2018, 08:53:29 PM

Imagine.

Being the best in the world at something, being very wealthy and having the best job in the world.

Then pulling a stunt like this.

Baffling.

He will still be the best in the world
He will still be minted
He will still have an

He literally don�t give a crap otherwise he wouldn�t have done it

jamielsn15 · « **Reply #340 on:** March 24, 2018, 09:00:29 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on March 24, 2018, 08:46:49 PM

Exactly, so the only logical conclusion you could reach is this one, as @RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie has mentioned

Because they have done it before and the cameras have not picked it up they did it again.on this basis they did not get caught previously.

I staggered by the stupidity of it as well.

Or the other logical conclusion is that it doesn't happen often. There are more cameras than ever at international matches. I genuinely don't believe there's a conspiracy to highlight some cases and not the majority of others.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen more than is reported; just that it takes a lot to conspire on an international level. I don't assume a lack of integrity from the majority of cricketers at that level. I may be wrong!

I also think that excuses Smith to a point. He needs to be made an example of. I think the ICCs and CAs responses to this will highlight how seriously this is taken by the cricketing world...

KD4 · « **Reply #341 on:** March 24, 2018, 09:02:58 PM »

Listening to Jim Maxwell earlier he was saying that he wouldn't be surprised if Lehman was involved even though Smith has said the decision to tamper with the ball was from the leadership group. A message was sent out from the dressing room when it was spotted on camera.

golders · « **Reply #342 on:** March 24, 2018, 09:13:55 PM »

Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on March 24, 2018, 08:54:21 PM

He will still be the best in the world
He will still be minted
He will still have an

He literally don�t give a crap otherwise he wouldn�t have done it

I disagree. Reputation is important to most men, and his is now tainted forever.

ppccopener · « **Reply #343 on:** March 24, 2018, 09:16:22 PM »

Quote from: KD4 on March 24, 2018, 09:02:58 PM

Listening to Jim Maxwell earlier he was saying that he wouldn't be surprised if Lehman was involved even though Smith has said the decision to tamper with the ball was from the leadership group. A message was sent out from the dressing room when it was spotted on camera.

Bancroft was asked, and answered 2 questions in total on that press conference. Everything else was asked to Smith.

The press there are not stupid, they know how and who deceided to do this. The management group is responsible and Bancroft is just a newbie player.

Lehmann will be part of any decision making in that group

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #344 on:** March 24, 2018, 09:16:45 PM »

Quote from: golders on March 24, 2018, 09:13:55 PM

I disagree. Reputation is important to most men, and his is now tainted forever.

Atherton
Tendulkar

Neither seems to have suffered in any way shape or form

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