Topic: England Test Series vs Pakistan (Read 60515 times)

Umi · « **Reply #315 on:** May 27, 2018, 04:03:08 PM »

Root should concentrate on racking up centuries instead of captaincy, if this series is lost Stokes or someone should take up the skipper role immediately.

golders · « **Reply #316 on:** May 27, 2018, 04:03:28 PM »

If the coach wants to say something,he should feel able to say it! Sounds like a toxic working environment if Bayliss is scared to offer advice to a senior player!
Root needs to go as Captain. A captain doesn't field at silly point,on his knees-like a fellow forumite said,it's dangerous-and if it pops up a couple of yards away from him,he can't bloody well move! Unbelievable Geoff

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #317 on:** May 27, 2018, 04:09:36 PM »

Quote from: Umi on May 27, 2018, 04:03:08 PM

Root should concentrate on racking up centuries instead of captaincy, if this series is lost Stokes or someone should take up the skipper role immediately.

What leadership qualities has stokes shown ? Sent home for punching lockers.. Bristol punch up... hardly someone you want leading your country. Plus, given he�s supposed to be this world clsss test batter and bowler.. would you not say there is a danger of overload like what happened to Botham/Flintoff etc ?

Sounds more like people clutching at straws than serious contenders

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #318 on:** May 27, 2018, 04:31:32 PM »

Anything to avoid talking about the real issues.

six and out · « **Reply #319 on:** May 27, 2018, 04:32:03 PM »

Quote from: rickjames on May 27, 2018, 02:23:18 PM

Above, but enlarged

At least I got a 50% refund today

Thanks for enlarging this mate. Still getting the hang of the new photo posting thing.

Anyways what it shows for me is that it is 7 different opponent's, both home and away, across 2 years, numerous different players but all under the same coach!

golders · « **Reply #320 on:** May 27, 2018, 04:32:46 PM »

Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on May 27, 2018, 04:09:36 PM

What leadership qualities has stokes shown ? Sent home for punching lockers.. Bristol punch up... hardly someone you want leading your country. Plus, given he�s supposed to be this world clsss test batter and bowler.. would you not say there is a danger of overload like what happened to Botham/Flintoff etc ?

Sounds more like people clutching at straws than serious contenders

Who would you go for?

billyb · « **Reply #321 on:** May 27, 2018, 04:50:34 PM »

Who is the best English County captain? Can they bat, bowl or keep?

Job's a good un.

ch1p · « **Reply #322 on:** May 27, 2018, 04:59:03 PM »

Quote from: billyb on May 27, 2018, 04:50:34 PM

Who is the best English County captain? Can they bat, bowl or keep?

Job's a good un.

Mullaney? can bat, bowls something a lot different and is a skipper.... or does his face not fit?

SD · « **Reply #323 on:** May 27, 2018, 05:10:54 PM »

I have seen a lot of people blaming batsmen taking a T20/ODI mentality into test cricket but I see a top order with Stoneman and Malan in it who consistently find themselves caught on the crease, squared up and either nicking off or getting bowled off stump. Cook had similar problems in Australia and NZ over the winter. For me the problems in the top order are more technical problems than an issue with batsman going to the crease with the wrong mental approach.

In recent times, England were at their best when they selected guys who were judged to be capable of making the step up to international level, not selected because they happened to have made some runs or taken wickets in the county championship. Bayliss could never implement that approach because he simply doesn't know enough about the talent pool in English cricket outside of the centrally contracted players. The best that can be hoped for in the medium term is that the new approach to selection will get back to the point where England can identify those with a game that will be successful at international level.

SD · « **Reply #324 on:** May 27, 2018, 05:16:12 PM »

Quote from: billyb on May 27, 2018, 04:50:34 PM

Who is the best English County captain? Can they bat, bowl or keep?

Job's a good un.

I was watching recently an interview between Mike Atherton and Mike Brearley and Brears made the point that with the impact of central contracts and England players playing so little county cricket, there is very little opportunity for England's test players to gain any meaningful experience of captaincy at first class level. The last 2 appointments - Cook and Root - seem to have been made on the basis that there was no one else in the team who was a realistic option even though neither seems either suited to the role nor seems like they enjoy any part of it.

norman1979 · « **Reply #325 on:** May 27, 2018, 05:17:04 PM »

I would hardly say Pakistan are full over average players

Amir, Shadab, Azam are hardly average.

The issue with England is all mental. Scars from a troubled winter being bullied into submission.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #326 on:** May 27, 2018, 05:30:31 PM »

Mullaney!

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #327 on:** May 27, 2018, 05:32:20 PM »

Watch sky sports debate from day 3. Just listen to Compton .. he�s so right

Sadly, as he�s says.. it�s out of fashion now and that�s also the case at lower levels too.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #328 on:** May 27, 2018, 05:32:35 PM »

We must have nearly exhausted every name from county cricket now. Will we be putting forward mates from club cricket soon?

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #329 on:** May 27, 2018, 05:33:39 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on May 27, 2018, 05:32:35 PM

We must have nearly exhausted every name from county cricket now. Will we be putting forward mates from club cricket soon?

Given most play winmlose now, I doubt even club Cricket is producing top order bats either !

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