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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2018, 01:44:05 PM »

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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2018, 02:18:49 PM »

@Buzz when you say deweighting, do you mean neutrally balanced?  I need to work on the weight transfer I reckon.
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2018, 02:21:32 PM »

No, look at Jason Roy's front foot in the trigger during the above video. He just has his toe on the ground as the ball is delivered.
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2018, 02:27:24 PM »

No, look at Jason Roy's front foot in the trigger during the above video. He just has his toe on the ground as the ball is delivered.
I see so he's loading his weight on his back foot? Like a hitter in that there baseballs.
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2018, 02:28:56 PM »

I don't believe any of us practise enough to finely tune a trigger movement.

Still don't get the bat up v bat down argument. Pretty much every batsman nowadays has his bat up at the point of delivery; and pretty much all of them take it a little higher before coming down. Whether you are tapping or standing tall as the bowler runs in is irrelevant.

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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2018, 02:30:14 PM »

I guess if your foot is off the ground you've got no option but to move it  :D

But yes it's a power hitting weight transfer method
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2018, 02:30:29 PM »

No, look at Jason Roy's front foot in the trigger during the above video. He just has his toe on the ground as the ball is delivered.

Jason Roy's pre-delivery movement is very minimal.
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2018, 02:38:16 PM »

if you watch the clips from today's game on the ECB website, he clearly triggers back and across.

Bairstow, on the other hand, triggers forward
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2018, 02:44:54 PM »

if you watch the clips from today's game on the ECB website, he clearly triggers back and across.


Yes, he does. Very efficiently, little waving around of bat.
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2018, 02:48:33 PM »

No! Back, then onto front as ball delivered. Very small movements, transfer of weight.
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #55 on: June 19, 2018, 02:52:17 PM »

Good luck with trying to work out where you own feet have moved to while the bowler is about to release the ball!

(I knew I shouldn't have got involved with this thread.)
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2018, 04:05:16 PM »

bat up v bat down is simple ... its quicker to get the bat down if you already have it in the air. When the ball is hurtling at 80mph +++ you need to react fast.
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #57 on: June 19, 2018, 04:18:16 PM »

Everyone's bat is up. Stupid argument.

Flintoff and Gilchrist were the last pros I remember who were the exception. Owais Shah, strangely, seemed to mix it up  - certainly at one point in his career.

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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #58 on: June 19, 2018, 06:46:14 PM »

Very very few established players have their bat already all the way up and still at the moment of delivery. Does seem to be the current vogue, but never seen anybody who bats that way and makes it look a good idea.
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #59 on: June 19, 2018, 07:19:37 PM »

Two pros may have two very different triggers but still manage to play at that level because they have tailored their technique to their physiology, reactions, and hand-eye coordination. And, this is why there is no universal technique.

Clubbies should experiment with different techniques until they find one that works for their ever weakening shoulder, eye-sight, and diminishing reflexes. :D Don't forget bat weights either.
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