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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #60 on: June 19, 2018, 07:33:56 PM »

Two pros may have two very different triggers but still manage to play at that level because they have tailored their technique to their physiology, reactions, and hand-eye coordination. And, this is why there is no universal technique.

Clubbies should experiment with different techniques until they find one that works for their ever weakening shoulder, eye-sight, and diminishing reflexes. :D Don't forget bat weights either.

Indeed...bat weights, one of the oldest parts of the game, remember a sports shop advising how to choose a bat. It's just taken years for the penny to drop! :-)

Reading this thread with interest, having worked on correcting technique to prevent over balancing for about 4 years it is starting to work...

So...for some players they naturally have a good set up to allow(as has been pointed out by meany on this), a level and still head, balanced feet and two eyes looking at the ball

For some others we need a trigger to get into the right position.

Personally I move back and across a bit and put my weight on the back foot, that helps me keep from overbalancong to the offside, also I try to open the left shoulder towards mid on. I'm sure there are others with the same problem it's pretty common.

So the trigger just helps get in the right position in the first place.

Can't overestimate thou using the right weight bat. Maybe it is the most important part of batting? That and really watching the ball.
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #61 on: June 19, 2018, 07:50:23 PM »

Very very few established players have their bat already all the way up and still at the moment of delivery. Does seem to be the current vogue, but never seen anybody who bats that way and makes it look a good idea.

No, that never happens. At least I've never noticed anyone do it. Up and up again, always!
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #62 on: June 19, 2018, 08:00:42 PM »

No, that never happens. At least I've never noticed anyone do it. Up and up again, always!
That's the theory though, have it all the way up to save time. Eoin Morgan has adopted it these days for example, there's a little wobble but it stays up. Hales is similar. Suspect it has a lot to do with the prevalence of bowling machines these days! The majority of the current U19 generation seem to have been coached to do it, time will tell there...
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #63 on: June 19, 2018, 08:19:26 PM »

Trigger doesn't have to be just a foot movement. Morgan, I think, triggers with his bat (raised up). Another great technique is bending knees and then springing up aligning your toes to the line of the delivery. That is a very nice (aesthetically) looking technique. This guys does it very well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkPF5xIJ1qw&t=55s

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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #64 on: June 19, 2018, 08:34:20 PM »

Trigger doesn't have to be just a foot movement. Morgan, I think, triggers with his bat (raised up). Another great technique is bending knees and then springing up aligning your toes to the line of the delivery. That is a very nice (aesthetically) looking technique. This guys does it very well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkPF5xIJ1qw&t=55s

What a classy batsman he is!
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #65 on: June 19, 2018, 09:49:00 PM »

Ponting/Kohli has a similar bat tap before the bat goes up. If it works for them...
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #66 on: June 20, 2018, 11:47:58 AM »

I stand corrected on both points.

As a Surrey member I still get to see Roy occasionally. I am always taken by how infussy his technique is. Part of it is the lack of movement as the bowler run in,  I'm sure. Perhaps with the trigger movement, it's the lateness and efficiency of it? It pretty much becomes part of the shot. Maybe that's the whole point?
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #67 on: June 20, 2018, 06:59:01 PM »

Changed my mind having just watched yesterday's highlights. I stand corrected about Roy's trigger. But not about Morgan's (or anyone else's) bat coming straight down from a stationary 'up' position.
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2018, 02:45:03 PM »

There's an interesting article on the wisdom or otherwise of 'bat up' here:

http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/931739/the-downside-of-up
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2018, 03:38:06 PM »

There's an interesting article on the wisdom or otherwise of 'bat up' here:

http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/931739/the-downside-of-up


Thanks for this. But look at the picture of Voges in the nets. Is his bat actually down as the bowler is about to bowl?
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #70 on: June 21, 2018, 03:51:21 PM »

I hover to stop myself falling over to off, but as the ball is delivered I pick my bat up farther, like a bat down player would, and tilt my shoulder and move my head in line - that shoulder movement naturally picks the bat up.  That is where the power that Hodge refers to comes from I think.  If I were to reach down to tap my bat, my eyes wouldn't be level.  I guess it depends on your own personal physiology as to what approach is best.
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #71 on: June 21, 2018, 03:55:26 PM »

Please someone find me an example of a genuine 'bat-down' player currently playing professional cricket?
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #72 on: June 21, 2018, 03:59:30 PM »

Please someone find me an example of a genuine 'bat-down' player currently playing professional cricket?

Chris Gayle?
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #73 on: June 21, 2018, 04:09:06 PM »

Theres loads of bat down, but if you want the full bat on ground at delivery stride, Moeen Ali.
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Re: Trigger vs Staying Still
« Reply #74 on: June 21, 2018, 05:33:50 PM »

Chris Gayle?

The article gives him as an example of the opposite?


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