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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2018, 10:20:10 PM »

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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2018, 05:59:09 PM »

I see the Leach-Bess bowl off has been enlightening - 5 overs for Leach, 9 for Bess! Selectors will be delighted with that I'm sure.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2018, 07:07:39 PM »

Personally would like to see Ali play. Be interesting to see how much time they give Malan if doesn’t score many runs
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2018, 08:11:11 PM »

Going to be interesting to see who plays - Cook, Jennings, Root, Malan, Stokes, Bairstow, Buttler nailed on now for the top seven, so it'll be one spinner, Broad Anderson and a seamer. 
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2018, 08:25:20 PM »

Going to be interesting to see who plays - Cook, Jennings, Root, Malan, Stokes, Bairstow, Buttler nailed on now for the top seven, so it'll be one spinner, Broad Anderson and a seamer.

Yep definitely those guys plus a spinner out of Leach, Bess or Ali.

Then a seamer out of Wood, Woakes or Sam Curran.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2018, 08:45:38 PM »

No chance is Ali going to play and Woakes won't be fully fit in time, it'll be Leach/Bess and Wood.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2018, 08:51:29 PM »

No chance is Ali going to play and Woakes won't be fully fit in time, it'll be Leach/Bess and Wood.

I know Ali won’t play but don’t rate leach or Bess personally think India will make them both look very ordinary. Still don’t understand why wood gets picked does really do much
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2018, 09:27:14 PM »

If players are fit England tend to stick with them if they played the last test match, Wood was unlucky to be left out after being told to bang it in against Pakistan which was brainless.Leach has not long come back from injury.

So they probably will stick with Bess and Wood not Woakes. woakes gets valuable runs as well as his bowling but with Stokes back there is cover to play Wood.Woakes is only just back playing I think.

To me Curran looks far too slow to worry India, he does swing it but swing depends on atmospherics (I think but don't really know),  :)

Batting wise no change I can see....

Could be close over 5 games but I fear if India are up for it we won't get enough of their wickets to win
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2018, 05:37:47 AM »

No chance is Ali going to play and Woakes won't be fully fit in time, it'll be Leach/Bess and Wood.

Woakes has played a 2nd XI game, the lions game and will have a CC game vs Middlesex starting on Sunday under his belt. So it will be interesting to see if he is considered for selection.

I wouldn't rule out Curran he has just got a michelle against a strong India A line up.

Bess vs Leach is the most interesting pick for me. Bess was only playing because Leach was injured and did he offer that much with the ball? The other thing to consider is India only have 1 left hander in their batting line up (Dhawan). So personally I would rather had the ball going away from the bat.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2018, 08:33:28 AM »

Agreed. Bess performed admirably, and looks a good prospect, but I think Leach deserves a run first, and it;s always great to have someone taking it away from the right-hander.

Personally, I'd play both of them in these conditions, and find a fit and willing workhorse to replace Broad, Curran or Woakes or someone to bowl tight.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2018, 08:33:50 AM »

Think they will go with Bess as he can bat a bat more than leach. I heard broad had an ankle problem so the first test should be interesting, but England should beat India whenever the ball has swung or seamed they have struggled, whether that be against Sri Lanka last year or South Africa.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2018, 08:34:55 AM »

Agreed. Bess performed admirably, and looks a good prospect, but I think Leach deserves a run first, and it;s always great to have someone taking it away from the right-hander.

Personally, I'd play both of them in these conditions, and find a fit and willing workhorse to replace Broad, Curran or Woakes or someone to bowl tight.


India play spin for fun no point having two average spinners, would only understand if one of them was Ali
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2018, 08:39:29 AM »

It is not going to seam or swing round corners, we haven;t got any express or bouncy bowlers in form, our usual medium-pacers could be fodder if the pitchers are flat.

However, if they are dry and might turn a bit, I'd rather have an average spinner who might get a bit of help than a plodder.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2018, 06:06:25 PM »

Woakes has only bowled 18 overs since returning from injury so if England are half sensible he'll be targetting second test. Then again Stokes is normally rushed back in as quickly as possible, which always goes well...
Curran looked pretty unthreatening in the last test so I can't see him playing as a specialist bowler. Maybe an outside chance of an Overton?

Leach and Bess didn't get any overs again today I see, shame. Presumably Leach comes back to take his place come the tests.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2018, 07:10:56 PM »

Interview with Baylis earlier suggested Rashid May back track on his white ball only plan after seeing Buttler’s success in Odis.


Apparently now Rashid has released a statement too saying red ball cricket may be back on the cards.


Rashid for this test squad??
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