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[rickjames]

Ed Smith will either recall Vince, or do his beatnik hipster trump card and pick Roy

[ppccopener]

trying to bea bit more positive here
is it  time for stokes bairstow butler...

to get the long handle out one day style

we can push and prod or give it some humpty

[six and out]

trying to bea bit more positive here
is it  time for stokes bairstow butler...

to get the long handle out one day style

we can push and prod or give it some humpty

Pushing and prodding  isn't working so if we can just get to lunch I actually wouldn't be adverse to s definite counter attack straight after lunch.

[ppccopener]

I think we are going to have to do that

100 lead now, its hard to do when we have not won for ages but we have to be positive

we need 250 lead I reckon. 150 more

[rickjames]

This team is an absolute shambles

[six and out]

What is Bairstow doing there? As Atherton said why is he trying to play it through the off side and staying so leg side ofcthe ball that's just school boy cricket.

Stokes got a good ball that straightened quite a bit.

[csnew]

Buttler needs to do a Kohli and Shepard the tail - time to play some shots after lunch

200 might be a good score with the ball still doing a bit

[six and out]

Ed Smith will either recall Vince, or do his beatnik hipster trump card and pick Roy

Will be interesting, with no Stokes, I think Mo will come in definitely. Then just a question of any other genuine people getting dropped.

[ppccopener]

hugely disappointing.

changing players wont work anymore, we've tried lots of them

heads will roll if we lose, we have been poor for a while

we need a Nasser moment and some honesty. only then can we move forward

[Biggie Smalls]

With the hot , dry english summer , my guess is that most of the wickets for the series will be quite india friendly. Eng might find it impossible to get back into the series if they lose this match. Rashid needs to be a match winner here/earn his recall or there's not much hope.
Roy in for malan ?
Ali for 2nd test ?

[Biggie Smalls]

Also , i reckon broad needs big wickets or he should be dropped.....i think he needs the wake up call that he cant just bowl pedestrian mids 90% of the time and maintain his place with a big spell once a blue moon. Now that i think about it.....broad should be dropped regardless.

[ppccopener]

I expect one day cricket will be blamed again for our lack of application

I really really do not buy it. its just an excuse

if your good enough you should be able to adapt between the two formats. overseas players do.

[SLA]

We're crap, and there's not a lot that can be done about it. For 5 years we've relied on doctored pitches and home advantage - we're so poor we can't even do that anymore. This is a true reflection as to how poor our players are, and there are no better players waiting in the wings. Two of our better bowlers are on the verge of retirement, so things are only going to get worse, and seeing as domestic and recreational cricket has been systematically destroyed by the ECB, meaning no new test-quality cricketers are being developed, this may be it - things may never get better.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this has been obvious for several years now.

[FattusCattus]

Vince??  Roy??  Can;t see a call up for either of them (especially Vince).

Joe Clarke was training with the team prior to the test I believe.

[six and out]

Vince??  Roy??  Can;t see a call up for either of them (especially Vince).

Joe Clarke was training with the team prior to the test I believe.

Yep reckon Clarke is the next cab off the rankings.

What I must say is India's catching this innings has been excellent, and we all know what wins matches...