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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #555 on: August 07, 2018, 09:58:21 AM »
Quote from: edge on August 06, 2018, 07:42:05 PM
Butler/YJB at 4/5 for me, not too bothered which way round but probably Bairstow higher. Don't think he'll mind that, definitely the type to grab as high a spot as he can! Then Pope slots in at 6 and choose between Moeen and Woakes based on the pitch. Maybe a gamble playing Butter at 5 but if he can't bat top 5 he shouldn't be selected as a specialist, and he definitely has the ability!

I'm not 100% convinced Buttler can bat 5 at tests but I think we're going to have to find out the hard way as I agree that if he can't bat top 5 then he can't be picked as a specialist bat.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #556 on: August 07, 2018, 10:06:41 AM »
Left field suggestion, why not move Buttler to 2 and use it as an aggressive option to go at India. Tell him to bat how he would normally in a Warner-esque mould. Give India something to think about early and try and get off to a quick start.

Cook
Buttler
Jennings
Root
Bairstow
Pope
Ali/Woakes
Curran
Rash
Broad
Anderson
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #557 on: August 07, 2018, 10:12:26 AM »
If we're going left field, I'll throw another in:

Cook
Jennings
Root
Woakes
Bairstow
Pope
Buttler
Curran
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

Or even Ali for Broad?
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #558 on: August 07, 2018, 10:21:24 AM »
Quote from: edge on August 07, 2018, 09:23:00 AM
If we want the extra spin option then select Ali at 7? That gives you two spinners in a 5 man attack.

In Stokes absence, I was suggesting 4 seamers and 2 spinners.

1. Cook 2. Jennings 3. Root 4. Buttler 5. Bairstow 6. Ali  7. Woakes 8. Curran 9. Rashid 10. Broad 11. Anderson.

I suspect Pope will play, though. As someone said, they wouldn't have called him otherwise.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #559 on: August 07, 2018, 11:11:43 AM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on August 07, 2018, 10:21:24 AM
In Stokes absence, I was suggesting 4 seamers and 2 spinners.

1. Cook 2. Jennings 3. Root 4. Buttler 5. Bairstow 6. Ali  7. Woakes 8. Curran 9. Rashid 10. Broad 11. Anderson.

I suspect Pope will play, though. As someone said, they wouldn't have called him otherwise.

Wouldn’t have butter at 4 probably Bairstow, but with him keeping would be difficult
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #560 on: August 07, 2018, 11:21:59 AM »
it would you would think

Pope I reckon will play, and unless they leave a out Butler, which I cant see, that means Ali for Woakes to get two spinners in

does that leave enough seamers with Curran as your third?

I don't like the look of that....
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #561 on: August 07, 2018, 11:26:42 AM »
*broken record alert* We don't need six bowlers! And one day Trevor Bayliss may even wake up to that...
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #562 on: August 07, 2018, 11:39:15 AM »
it's Edge !! 

ton  up son

(well batted)

seriously if Root bowled a bit more, it could give us the option we need.....

cant wait for Thursday the last game was why tests are the best form of the game  :)
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #563 on: August 07, 2018, 11:50:12 AM »
Pope and Ali for Malan and Stokes.  I would prefer to see Bairstow step up and bat at 4 rather than asking Pope to step up at this stage in his career.

Overall it seems to me that Ed Smith has made a positive start with his selections.  Pleased to see Butler and Rashid back in test cricket- at times our one day side has looked better require to win test matches than our test side has - and happy that he has shown backing for young players with the character to succeed at this level
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #564 on: August 07, 2018, 12:31:09 PM »
Quote from: Calzehbhoy on August 07, 2018, 10:06:41 AM
Left field suggestion, why not move Buttler to 2 and use it as an aggressive option to go at India. Tell him to bat how he would normally in a Warner-esque mould. Give India something to think about early and try and get off to a quick start.

Cook
Buttler
Jennings
Root
Bairstow
Pope
Ali/Woakes
Curran
Rash
Broad
Anderson

Thsi would be my favourite as Buttler can bat watchfully and then give himself plenty of time to get settled in.
Plus it means that Root is at 4 which he prefers, Bairstow doesn'[t have to move from 5 and Pope gets to bat his normal 6.
Alas, I feel it's unlikely to happen!  :(
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #565 on: August 07, 2018, 12:36:49 PM »
Hopefully woakes can come in for stokes can bat and a decent bowler at home. Pope probably your best bet to replace Malan but muddles up the order as he bats 6 usually
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #566 on: August 07, 2018, 12:38:03 PM »
Quote from: petehosk on August 07, 2018, 12:31:09 PM
Thsi would be my favourite as Buttler can bat watchfully and then give himself plenty of time to get settled in.
Plus it means that Root is at 4 which he prefers, Bairstow doesn'[t have to move from 5 and Pope gets to bat his normal 6.
Alas, I feel it's unlikely to happen!  :(

His technique wouldn’t hold up I think with the ball moving round. Say he gets a low score they will probably change it no consistency with selection
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #567 on: August 07, 2018, 12:38:36 PM »
Quote from: petehosk on August 07, 2018, 12:31:09 PM
Thsi would be my favourite as Buttler can bat watchfully and then give himself plenty of time to get settled in.
Plus it means that Root is at 4 which he prefers, Bairstow doesn'[t have to move from 5 and Pope gets to bat his normal 6.
Alas, I feel it's unlikely to happen!  :(

Is Buttler not about the least likely candidate in the 11 to thrown in against the swinging new red ball?
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #568 on: August 07, 2018, 12:43:50 PM »
Pete has pulled up a road sign and thrown it  in thru the selection room smack in the middle of picking the test side

that's what we love about this forum and cricket. has there ever been a sport to generate differing views?

it's fantastic   :)

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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #569 on: August 07, 2018, 12:48:34 PM »
Doesn't sit right with me to chuck in a 20 year old rookie to bat out of position at 4 whilst the vice captain hides as a specialist batter at 7.

Buttler and Bairstow to sort out 4/5 between them with Pope at 6 I think is the best bet, unless we get in to the realms of Buttler keeping, in which case YJB definitely does 4, Pope 5 and Buttler keeps Benji's no.6 slot warm until he come back. AN Other all-rounder at 7 for now
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