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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #585 on: August 07, 2018, 07:52:35 PM »

So how many of us have actually seen Ollie Pope bat?


haven't seen him at all, but heard he's decent ;)
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #586 on: August 07, 2018, 09:07:24 PM »

So how many of us have actually seen Ollie Pope bat?


I have, albeit two years ago. I haven't seen anyone hit the ball cleaner than him. He just seems to be able to hit the ball wherever he wants. Am I allowed to compare him to Jos Buttler? 360 player who can also hit the ball a long way and keep. Definitely an exciting prospect. He might be vulnerable trying to cover drive everything a la James Vince, I can see him nicking off in the same way Vince did.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #587 on: August 07, 2018, 09:14:18 PM »

Seen plenty of him this season to know he's good enough. Very much an attacking player, but for a kid his age has an incredible attitude/temperament
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #589 on: August 08, 2018, 12:01:32 PM »

Confirmed that he'll play
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #590 on: August 08, 2018, 12:03:17 PM »

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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #591 on: August 08, 2018, 12:04:19 PM »

he was going o play once named, wish the lad the best in an England shirt.

I just hope....we stick by him, if they think he is the best of the young batsman give him a good chance to do well

two spinners or 1 for Lords?  that's the crux decision I think
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #592 on: August 08, 2018, 12:05:49 PM »

give the young inexperience batsman who bats 6 for his county a chance to bat at 4. why the experienced players hide behind him

agree to a certain extend, especially with regard to Butler

other side of the coin is of course, 'we think you are good enough to bat top 4 and we are backing you'

depends on your viewpoint I suppose
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #593 on: August 08, 2018, 12:11:44 PM »

agree to a certain extend, especially with regard to Butler

other side of the coin is of course, 'we think you are good enough to bat top 4 and we are backing you'

depends on your viewpoint I suppose

don't get me wrong i haven't seen much of him at all so could get proven wrong. How someone can bat 6 for there county, but 4 for england
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #594 on: August 08, 2018, 12:22:54 PM »

don't get me wrong i haven't seen much of him at all so could get proven wrong. How someone can bat 6 for there county, but 4 for england

I know...back in he day we used to do the opposite..get new guys in the middle to get used to test cricket.

it's a tough ask for a 20 year old. the thing is wherever he bats he will need time to get used to better bowlers, that's obvious

there are very very few England players who are born natural test batsmen, Gower probably, pieterson yes, gooch no, Jennings no, vince no, stoneman no,westly no...the list is endless.

hameed has not worked out so far but hopefully he can come back

Pope needs the whole series to play....if he  has the potential we have to start backing them 100 per cent.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #595 on: August 08, 2018, 12:30:01 PM »

I know...back in he day we used to do the opposite..get new guys in the middle to get used to test cricket.

it's a tough ask for a 20 year old. the thing is wherever he bats he will need time to get used to better bowlers, that's obvious

there are very very few England players who are born natural test batsmen, Gower probably, pieterson yes, gooch no, Jennings no, vince no, stoneman no,westly no...the list is endless.

hameed has not worked out so far but hopefully he can come back

Pope needs the whole series to play....if he  has the potential we have to start backing them 100 per cent.

totally agree stick with them for a while otherwise your going to be chopping and changing. The amount of batsman england have gone through in the past few years is ridiculous.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #596 on: August 08, 2018, 02:27:45 PM »

give the young inexperience batsman who bats 6 for his county a chance to bat at 4. why the experienced players hide behind him

Pre Jonathan Trott, it seemed to be the case that each new batsman to the side was bumped up to bat at 3 whilst the lads settled in the side waited to come in down the order. 

It is difficult to be critical of Butler without knowing what his views are on batting higher up.  For all we know he may have wanted to come in higher up the order - I can't see a batsman wanting to come in as low as 7 - but the decision was to go with Pope at 4 instead
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #597 on: August 08, 2018, 04:01:29 PM »

Pre Jonathan Trott, it seemed to be the case that each new batsman to the side was bumped up to bat at 3 whilst the lads settled in the side waited to come in down the order. 

It is difficult to be critical of Butler without knowing what his views are on batting higher up.  For all we know he may have wanted to come in higher up the order - I can't see a batsman wanting to come in as low as 7 - but the decision was to go with Pope at 4 instead


rather see bairstow bat at 4 hes established in the team plenty of experience, why Butler is just starting his test career again
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #598 on: August 09, 2018, 10:47:02 AM »

Second test first day  start delayed raining
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #599 on: August 09, 2018, 11:34:18 AM »

Second test first day  start delayed raining

Sucks.....was looking forward to watching the 1st session.
I thought you guys were in the midst of a heatwave or drought or something. What's with this rain business ?
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