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[Manormanic]

On the one hand,maybe - Jadeja started out as a batsman who bowled a few overs.  On the other, you've seen their batting so far, right?

[six and out]

they have got more problems than we have I think. I would shift a top order batsman to get jadeja in myself. but quite how I don't know.

it begs the question if you drop one of the top 3 to get an allrounder in......who opens the batting.

jadeja in for kuldeep(the chinaman bowler) would make sense......

Pandya im not sure about, I think he could be a big player for India but no one really rates him ive spoken to... tricky

Runs are India's biggest problem so for me i think Kuldeep goes and either bring Dhawan back or pick the youngster Pant. So you have 6 batters allowing Pandya, Kartik and Ashwin to drop down a spot. Then go in with Shami, Ishant, Pandya and Ashwin and hope it turns or at least Ashwin holds a bit of an end up.

[Seniorplayer]

You're right, which is why a quality all-rounder like Woakes is perfect!

Anderson can take all the wickets he likes, if we're 100 ao it makes no difference.

Exactly that's why Indias 107 first innings was never enough the way they were batting and with there  second innings still to come if needed in the context of the match  England had a big  enough lead before Woakes came to the crease although woakes batting took the game beyond India couldn't call it match winning

[northernboy1987]

Exactly that's why Indias 107 first innings was never enough the way they were batting and with there  second innings still to come if needed in the context of the match  England had a big  enough lead before Woakes came to the crease although woakes batting took the game beyond India couldn't call it match winning

Bet if it was Buttler or Curran who finished 137* you would have thought differently

[mo_town]

Pandya is neither a proper batsman nor a proper bowler...cricketers like him are perfect in limited overs where you need someone to bowl a few overs and get a few runs...but in Test Cricket, you need to be strong and reliable in one of the disciplines. India cannot afford to have someone like him when the batting is failing and the bowling is lacking resources.

Looking at the conditions, Jadeja really wont be of much use either...India need to get Bumrah in. He was class in South Africa. I would go with Shami, Bumrah, Yadav and Ashwin as the bowlers.

[smilley792]

England name unchanged squad.


Stokes availability to be discussed after the trial has ended.

[stevat]

Pandya is neither a proper batsman nor a proper bowler...cricketers like him are perfect in limited overs where you need someone to bowl a few overs and get a few runs...but in Test Cricket, you need to be strong and reliable in one of the disciplines. India cannot afford to have someone like him when the batting is failing and the bowling is lacking resources.

Looking at the conditions, Jadeja really wont be of much use either...India need to get Bumrah in. He was class in South Africa. I would go with Shami, Bumrah, Yadav and Ashwin as the bowlers.

We've had a dry summer, guess it depends on the local conditions.  Turning the ball away from a right hander may be useful now we have more of them in the side.

[six and out]

Pandya is neither a proper batsman nor a proper bowler...cricketers like him are perfect in limited overs where you need someone to bowl a few overs and get a few runs...but in Test Cricket, you need to be strong and reliable in one of the disciplines. India cannot afford to have someone like him when the batting is failing and the bowling is lacking resources.

Looking at the conditions, Jadeja really wont be of much use either...India need to get Bumrah in. He was class in South Africa. I would go with Shami, Bumrah, Yadav and Ashwin as the bowlers.

Bumrah would be great and would obviously get picked but is he going to be fit?

[ppccopener]

stokes left out of third test

that has to be the right call

[bigc92]

stokes left out of third test

that has to be the right call

Agreed. Give him time to get his head straight. And to be honest the team is going pretty well without him at the moment!

[WalkingWicket37]

Damn Woakes, making match winning contributions against the world's number 1 ranked side to artificially boost his place in the ICC rankings!

England's Chris Woakes has broken into the top ten of the ICC's all-rounder rankings following his man of the match performance at Lord's.

The 29-year old has risen to seventh after scoring an unbeaten 137 and taking four wickets as England beat India by an innings and 159 runs.

[Mister Le Chiffre]

India are trash simple as. They have a few outstanding players such as Kohli, Ashwin and Shami.

Vijay, pujara, Karthik look no more than flat track bullies.

Kuldeep looks like a new version of Ajantha Mendis, decent enough in limited overs but lacks skills for red ball cricket.

India's biggest concern will be how rubbish Rahul and Rahane have become.

5-0 easy money. We would win by playing with only 9 players

[Mister Le Chiffre]

Chris Woakes isn't a 'quality all rounder' that's Ben Stokes. Woakes gets away with it in home conditions yet when he plays overseas he continually lets the side down

[joymarvin]

India are trash simple as. They have a few outstanding players such as Kohli, Ashwin and Shami.

Vijay, pujara, Karthik look no more than flat track bullies.

Kuldeep looks like a new version of Ajantha Mendis, decent enough in limited overs but lacks skills for red ball cricket.

India's biggest concern will be how rubbish Rahul and Rahane have become.

5-0 easy money. We would win by playing with only 9 players

I knew India is going to lose all the 5 tests before it even began. The team selection isn't right from the word go.

[Kulli]

I knew India is going to lose all the 5 tests before it even began. The team selection isn't right from the word go.

7/2 still available, get the mortgage on.